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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 22, 2018 13:43:46 GMT -6
This purdue guy is killing me so I am zoning him out.. If we think a couple years there was the time Riley had the phantom Injury right around the time the fan base was clamoring for Milas. Milas got one start and proceeded to shit down his leg. So maybe Riley has always been on a short leash but the staff has never had another option
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 22, 2018 13:43:49 GMT -6
Just need to vent.... Im sitting here at my house with an obnoxious Purdue Fan who will not stop talking Purdue basketball. He is driving me over the edge and I am about to beat him with a turkey leg.. There is not enough alcohol in this house for me to survive the day Don't waste a good turkey leg. And savor every drop of the alcohol you have.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 22, 2018 13:48:48 GMT -6
Just need to vent.... Im sitting here at my house with an obnoxious Purdue Fan who will not stop talking Purdue basketball. He is driving me over the edge and I am about to beat him with a turkey leg.. There is not enough alcohol in this house for me to survive the day Don't waste a good turkey leg. And savor every drop of the alcohol you have.
Id be at your house in your wine cellar if I could
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 22, 2018 16:24:18 GMT -6
Don't waste a good turkey leg. And savor every drop of the alcohol you have. Id be at your house in your wine cellar if I could Yes a step up from going to the basement where you have hidden away a cooler with a 12 pack. But same basic idea.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 22, 2018 16:48:54 GMT -6
Amazingly, at BSU, it appears to cut it as well as an 11-4 TD-Int ratio. We got one win against a team without it's starting QB. I'm not sure the results were better. I didn't say better. My point was merely that while some folks seem to hold that particular statistic as meaningful, it didn't seem to matter much in how many wins either QB was involved in. Yes, Plitt had 1 win in 3 starts against a team playing with its back-up QB and in a game where the opposing coach probably lost the game with a poor decision. Whatever the reasons though, I think it's easy to say WMU was the best team we defeated this year. On the other hand, Neal had 3 wins in 9 starts (same ratio), beating an FCS school, a 2-9 team with a horrific defense and a 1-10 team with its back-up QB. Both resumes equally impressive/unimpressive despite their varied TD-Int ratio.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 22, 2018 17:56:49 GMT -6
In my opinion, Neal is the better and more talented QB, and he protects the ball. He doesn’t take as many risks, which frustrates fans and apparently some players if these comments about players not happy with Neal are to be believed, but it is not debatable that when you lose the turnover battle it is difficult to win games. Especially when you have an atrocious defense. The reason I think Plitt might be the answer at QB next year is IF the players don’t want to play hard or lack respect for Neal. Honestly, I put some of the blame on the players around Neal if that is the case. The intangibles appear to be in Plitt’s favor, so it is a question of what direction the players and coaches want to go. Look at the schedule. Early season when Neal was playing, we played teams with below average offense but strong defense. Second half, when Plitt got his playing time, we played teams with good offenses and below average to terrible defense. Neal put up 52 against Kent State. Just something to consider when comparing the two QB’s. I think you're definitely on point with taking care of the ball. That's something Plitt did not do well. And I don't think anybody would take issue that Neal is the more talented athlete, although I might argue that being a "talented athlete" and a "talented QB" often are two very different things. As far as the level of the competition that each played, I don't see that giving a edge to either player. Surely, you didn't mean to use our 52 points against Kent as an example of Neal's QB prowess. That was the one truly terrible defense he played. And if you look at some of the good defenses he did play, it wasn't just that we lost those games; it was that our offense really stunk it up. We had 9 points against NIU (6 of those on 2 long Hagee FGs) before that Wilborn INT set us up inside the NIU 10 and Gilbert ran one in to make it look respectable. Otherwise our offense was basically nonexistent. Against EMU, another good defense, our offense was equally pathetic and we were never in the game after the first quarter. Neal had two TD drives in the second and third quarters, but it took an 80-yard Will Jones TD run on our last series to get us to 20 points. Neal led us to 13 points. Yeah, the defenses were tough, but we really didn't do anything offensively. I feel very confident that either Plitt or Paddock could have achieved similar results in those games.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 22, 2018 18:20:54 GMT -6
One other thing that really hasn't been mentioned regarding the impact of the QB decision.
If it is true, as some have suggested, that folks with deep pockets are influencing the QB decision ...
and if the team as a whole gets wind of that and believes it to be true ...
I'm not sure that even a winning record will save things; Neu will lose the lockerroom in a millisecond. I mean, if you thought it got bad this year ...
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 22, 2018 18:58:35 GMT -6
Just stopping making sense Mills just stop
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Post by redbirdman on Nov 22, 2018 19:57:32 GMT -6
My suggestion is don't invite Painter to your house at future Thanksgivings.
Hey guys how impressive was the win over WMU? They along with Alabama Birmingham last yr are coach's only wins over teams in the FCS with winning records.
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 22, 2018 20:50:09 GMT -6
BSUTONY you have to keep in mind how much Plitt has played versus Neal. I do not dislike Riley but we haven't done much with him and I know that he hasn't had much help either. Just one of the many problems Neu faces this off season. And like I said earlier I do not know what I would do if I was in his shoes.
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 22, 2018 21:02:13 GMT -6
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving...''LIFE IS UNCERTAIN EAT DESSERT FIRST''... Red wine and hard liquor makes the holidays tolerable. Try a Rusty Nail if you are wondering what to drink over the holidays. Good tasting and good for you too!
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 22, 2018 21:04:56 GMT -6
My suggestion is don't invite Painter to your house at future Thanksgivings. Hey guys how impressive was the win over WMU? They along with Alabama Birmingham last yr are coach's only wins over teams in the FCS with winning records. Painter would have a been a much better guest lol
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 22, 2018 21:43:57 GMT -6
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving...''LIFE IS UNCERTAIN EAT DESSERT FIRST''... Red wine and hard liquor makes the holidays tolerable. Try a Rusty Nail if you are wondering what to drink over the holidays. Good tasting and good for you too! Stuck with bourbon today, but I can see a Rusty Nail in my future. 'Tis the holiday season.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 7:03:40 GMT -6
If it is true, as some have suggested, that folks with deep pockets are influencing the QB decision ... Funny that you guys mentioned this...... I was just telling my wife the other day that we should take some of our scratch-off winnings and make sure Ball State is playing that Yorktown kid at quarterback next year.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 23, 2018 8:23:03 GMT -6
If it is true, as some have suggested, that folks with deep pockets are influencing the QB decision ... Funny that you guys mentioned this...... I was just telling my wife the other day that we should take some of our scratch-off winnings and make sure Ball State is playing that Yorktown kid at quarterback next year. Coming off our recent political season, I think we ought to take advantage of that democratic process in QB selection. I think sometime around February, the QBACs (quarterback action committees) should start ramping up their advertising. Of course, we would have advertising on this fan forum, signboards outside spring practices, mass mailings to alums. We'll need some lobbyists and good slogans for the candidates. Neal: Definitely something tapping into the appeal of experience, the fact that he's negotiated these waters before and that, now healthy and with an improved O-line, is ready to take things to the next level. Maybe some Charles Atlas type ads displaying his tall, athletic good looks as he throws the football 80 yards, focusing on preparation. A strong campaign in the heartland (Yorktown and Delaware County) where they don't really care what you do as long as you're a good person and have a good work ethic. Plitt: Not sure you can get better than Rob's "Plitt happens" for a slogan. Got a relatively young, devil-may-care vibe. Says he can't be controlled ... he's not anyone's lackey. He's his own man, a maverick, free thinker. Maybe something talking about always moving forward. "Sure there are risks involved, but the goal is in front of us, not on the sideline." Paddock: Maybe a "good things in small packages" theme. Even though he can't run on his record, he's OK because his opponents records are unimpressive. Because of this he gets to run a clean campaign. Maybe we just dust off the old Obama signs, put Paddock's face in there with the simple message "HOPE." There'll always be the nefarious QBACs with their back alley dealings but our campaigns would all be above board, if not always nice.
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