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Post by DickHunsaker on Nov 29, 2018 16:45:39 GMT -6
Strength and Conditioning all went to shit when what's his face left. Feeny?
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Post by cardrock on Nov 29, 2018 17:27:11 GMT -6
I wasn’t able to catch very many episodes, but anyone watch the Alabama football espn behind the scenes show? I thought it was interesting how detailed the staff/team appeared to be. I also was impressed with how deep they seemed to focus on personal mindset and the intensity of the mind/attitude. The mental level/attitude that the Alabama players are at is really intense. Everyone always says football is 80-90% mental.
For our guys I think they have to find a way to approach every aspect with that type of intensity, starting with strength and conditioning. They really need to commit to pushing past perceived limits. I hope any changes that may be coming really pushes the boundaries and pushes these kids to realize how much more is possible.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 29, 2018 17:57:37 GMT -6
Armer works those kids hard. They do bust their asses. I think he’s a protege of Feely. But something is missing. Either we aren’t getting or haven’t chosen to recruit body types that are conducive to really bulking up, or, our S&C philosophy is not bulk/size/strength , but lean/quick/explosive instead.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 29, 2018 18:37:37 GMT -6
Armer works those kids hard. They do bust their asses. I think he’s a protege of Feely. But something is missing. Either we aren’t getting or haven’t chosen to recruit body types that are conducive to really bulking up, or, our S&C philosophy is not bulk/size/strength , but lean/quick/explosive instead. Remember that whole olympic strategy we tried a few years ago that was a mess as well |
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Post by universityjim on Nov 29, 2018 18:49:26 GMT -6
O’Gara has an interesting article on how the players ranked according to Pro Football Focus this year. Although he didn’t get All-MAC honors, Ray Wilborn was rated as our best player. That was a solid pickup. Hopefully we can get an impact player like that on the O-Line this year. 1. Wilborn 2. Josh Miller 3. Jaylin Thomas 4. Antonio Phillips 5. Danny Pinter 5. Bryce Cosby 7. Christian Albright 8. Riley Miller 8. Drew Plitt 10. Riley Neal Here is PFF's grading scale: Elite (90-99), Very Good (80-89), Above-Average Starter (70-79), Average Starter (60-69), Below-Average Starter (50-59), Back-up (less than 50). Here were the players grades. 1. Ray Wilborn - 78.2 2 Josh Miller - 77.1 3. Jaylin Thomas - 75.6 4. Antonio Phillips - 74.1 5. Danny Pinter - 73.7 5. Bryce Cosby - 73.7 7. Christian Albright - 72.7 8. Riley Miller - 72.3 8. Drew Plitt - 72.3 10. Riley Neal - 71 |
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Post by BSUMike on Nov 29, 2018 19:02:27 GMT -6
Interesting list. Anyone else surprised to see Phillips and Miller so high and Hall absent completely? Not sure I agree with that. Wilborn, Thomas and Albright were our best on defense for sure.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 29, 2018 19:23:50 GMT -6
Hell I do not know thats why someone gets paid t figure out this stuff
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Post by cardfan on Nov 29, 2018 19:45:47 GMT -6
I’m guessing his drops and lack of production hurt his rating.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 7:12:43 GMT -6
Armer works those kids hard. They do bust their asses. I think he’s a protege of Feely. But something is missing. Either we aren’t getting or haven’t chosen to recruit body types that are conducive to really bulking up, or, our S&C philosophy is not bulk/size/strength , but lean/quick/explosive instead. Remember that whole olympic strategy we tried a few years ago that was a mess as well I do not know any details, but it sounded like when we made that switch, we garnished some vast improvements within the first 4-6 months. Sounded like Parrish's program was a weak effort, almost an afterthought, and totally dismantled what Wellman had built. It did seem like the Olympic program helped to field a better prepared team. Was that not the case? |
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Post by williamtsherman on Nov 30, 2018 8:26:15 GMT -6
What's really the biggest difference between strength and conditioning programs? Is there really that much difference in exercises? equipment? time and effort spent? body types?
I tend to doubt it. I think the most likely difference is in sophistication in using PED's.
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 30, 2018 9:06:10 GMT -6
Weight lifting for football players has been in vogue now for 50-60 years and many say our programs (note the plural) have been a bust. WTF. The programs chosen for the Cards must be a coaching decision made by coaches that do not what is going on , period. How hard can it be. You look at the INDIVIDUAL GOALS and proscribe a proven protocol for that athlete then monitor his or her progress. If they are not making the progress wanted then changes in equipment, diet, techniques, etc. should be made. There are many coaches and programs doing very well with their methods and there is a plethora of information out there if needed. If we are not happy with our results change them. Get off your fat asses and DO YOUR JOB.
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Post by redbirdman on Nov 30, 2018 10:47:01 GMT -6
I tend to agree with bsu0 & would only add it comes down to the players coaches pushing it & see the players do it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 11:14:01 GMT -6
What's really the biggest difference between strength and conditioning programs? Is there really that much difference in exercises? equipment? time and effort spent? body types? Yep. |
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 30, 2018 13:37:04 GMT -6
The team should have a weight lifting schedule during the season and in the off season attendance is taken and there should be hell to pay if you don't show or ''dog it'' during the workouts. It is the strength coach's responsibility to oversee the effectiveness of the methods being used. If they are not successful then they have to be changed for certain individuals. Different people may need different methods. This is not rocket science. 90% of life is showing up. Show up and lift some goddamn weights. It is time to stop the finger pointing and starting working towards the same damn goal.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 30, 2018 13:49:28 GMT -6
The team should have a weight lifting schedule during the season and in the off season attendance is taken and there should be hell to pay if you don't show or ''dog it'' during the workouts. It is the strength coach's responsibility to oversee the effectiveness of the methods being used. If they are not successful then they have to be changed for certain individuals. Different people may need different methods. This is not rocket science. 90% of life is showing up. Show up and lift some goddamn weights. It is time to stop the finger pointing and starting working towards the same damn goal. You think they don’t lift or something? The football team absolutely has strict workout routines. Basketball might be a different issue. |
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