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Post by Hoopsmith on Feb 8, 2019 8:57:46 GMT -6
Over the last 20-25 years, the coaching staffs for almost every sport have "highly recommended" that their athletes not join other organizations, particularly fraternities and sororities. Why would the fraternities coordinate events to help the athletic department, when the athletic department discourages athletes from joining them? CF12, I generally think your comments add a lot to the discussion here, but I can't agree with this one. I get that the Greek orgs do community activities and participate in university functions, but maybe they cooperate with the athletic department and support athletic and other campus events because, I don't know, you earn a degree from a University, not I Eta Pi fraternity. To me, that attitude smacks of the conflict between the athletic department and the School of Music/Homecoming Committee some years back where the game time was moved up (to accommodate TV), and rather than coordinate times so the band could be at the stadium and, you know, MARCH IN THE PARADE, the decision was made to just have the band do one of the events. Not surprisingly, there was a new band director not long after. I could be wrong, but I don't think coaches "highly recommending" athletes not participate in Greek or other organizations is exclusive to BSU. Coaches' livelihood is tied enough to the maturity of 18-22 year olds without them being involved in groups that have had their reputations diminished over that same time period as behavior scandals among "student-athletes." I would imagine that the time commitment between athletic practices, mandatory study tables, actual class time and other Greek-mandated fellowship activities cuts both ways. That said, I like some of the promotional ideas being discussed here. I'm also reminded that offering free tickets to youth organizations has instead provoked howls from the parents, who write the paper complaining mean ole BSU is charging them to watch little Johnny or Susie perform. It's always something around here.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 8, 2019 9:23:35 GMT -6
The Greeks essentially boycotted football this year because of the new tailgating rules that were implemented. They felt the school directly targeted them. I got that directly from a frat member.
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Post by Hoopsmith on Feb 8, 2019 9:32:58 GMT -6
Not sure of the specific rules to the tailgate lot, but a lot of the tailgaters (in the alumni areas) were irritated the pass-outs were eliminated. So as to not undercut sales of $7 Bud and Bud Light...
Muncie's reaction to the tailgates is something else. They act like the stadium is gridlocked on game days... try living in a Big Ten or SEC town for single fall, and they might change their tune. Nobody wants to go with the flow and alter their routine a litle bit.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 8, 2019 9:59:14 GMT -6
Not sure of the specific rules to the tailgate lot, but a lot of the tailgaters (in the alumni areas) were irritated the pass-outs were eliminated. So as to not undercut sales of $7 Bud and Bud Light... Muncie's reaction to the tailgates is something else. They act like the stadium is gridlocked on game days... try living in a Big Ten or SEC town for single fall, and they might change their tune. Nobody wants to go with the flow and alter their routine a litle bit. Certain activities were banned or restricted. Music volume, things like that.
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Post by bsu0 on Feb 8, 2019 11:36:10 GMT -6
We need to change regulations to ATTRACT more people to the stadium on game days and not to drive them away. Why does the school always do the opposite? As Dylan wrote,''The answer is blowin' in the wind''.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 8, 2019 13:20:36 GMT -6
We need to change regulations to ATTRACT more people to the stadium on game days and not to drive them away. Why does the school always do the opposite? As Dylan wrote,''The answer is blowin' in the wind''. I heartily agree annoying the paying customers is a poor way to do business. OTOH. To be fair there are some concerns about safety related to alcohol sales that prompt a good deal of limitation on tailgate activities. Also limiting volume of music and some of the rest had to do with responding to complaints of some who were tailgating and might not continue to do so.
The problem is not attracting students to the tailgate, but attracting them inside the stadium and keeping them there.Who we really want to attract is the paying customer anyway.
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Post by bsu0 on Feb 8, 2019 13:33:36 GMT -6
I agree with much of what you say 00 but we need students to show and stay through the games both while they attend school and to return after graduation.
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Post by cardrock on Feb 8, 2019 15:08:21 GMT -6
Maybe someone suggested it already, but is it possible to sort of “close” tailgating at the start of the game & allow the frats to have a band ready for a post game tailgate? Maybe allow a couple hour window for them to have a reason to 1) show up for the game & 2) stay for it.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 8, 2019 17:48:39 GMT -6
I feel bad for you guys. You're like the owners of a deep sea diving equipment store in Minot, North Dakota trying to figure out what marketing ploy is going to turn their business around.
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Post by bsu0 on Feb 8, 2019 22:49:06 GMT -6
General I love ya, but try to get more fans than a bad high school team to show at Worthen once before ya try to beat on us anymore.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 8, 2019 22:56:04 GMT -6
General I love ya, but try to get more fans than a bad high school team to show at Worthen once before ya try to beat on us anymore. Its funny you say that because as I was sitting at a packed delta basketball game tonight wondering why the atmosphere was so much better than any BSU game this year
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Post by bsutony on Feb 9, 2019 8:51:33 GMT -6
General I love ya, but try to get more fans than a bad high school team to show at Worthen once before ya try to beat on us anymore. Its funny you say that because as I was sitting at a packed delta basketball game tonight wondering why the atmosphere was so much better than any BSU game this year Ball State needs to drop down.... to the high school level to improve attendance.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 9, 2019 9:31:10 GMT -6
General I love ya, but try to get more fans than a bad high school team to show at Worthen once before ya try to beat on us anymore. Its funny you say that because as I was sitting at a packed delta basketball game tonight wondering why the atmosphere was so much better than any BSU game this year Maybe if we packed our fans into a HS gym we'd get a better atmosphere.
Of course we would still have problems getting as many students to come. I have no answer for that.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 9, 2019 10:53:04 GMT -6
Not sure how many deltas gym holds but it has a standing room rail type thing around the top. That was also packed do not think our last couple basketball crowds would have filled it
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 9, 2019 11:36:53 GMT -6
General I love ya, but try to get more fans than a bad high school team to show at Worthen once before ya try to beat on us anymore. Its funny you say that because as I was sitting at a packed delta basketball game tonight wondering why the atmosphere was so much better than any BSU game this year A sense of community helps. That along with playing an opponent who brings just as many fans as the home team. Two things pretty much always lacking at BSU/Muncie.
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