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BGSU
Mar 15, 2019 20:45:25 GMT -6
Post by redfeather on Mar 15, 2019 20:45:25 GMT -6
Here's a thought, as bad as this season/team was this year, just how bad woiuld the last two years have been if Pearson did not transfer to Ball State? Whitford has already gone on record last year saying that he "blew it" on originally "not" recruiting TP and from all indications it looks like he wanted Ball State and not the other way around so isn't this even more of an indictment of the lack of Whitfords successful recruiting?
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 15, 2019 20:45:53 GMT -6
I've often wondered if we hear so much about the "process" because Whit knows only one way to coach. He's not a true student of the game, knows just one way to play, and unfortunately he is unable to recruit the players needed to be successful playing this way (as Reevo has repeatedly pointed out). This is why he couldn't take the team he inherited and do anything with it, even though there was talent there. This is why he's a lousy game coach, doesn't make adjustments. This is why he cannot make the most of the talent he has; if they do not fit into his scheme perfectly he cannot make adjustments to use them to the most of their ability. So the talents of players like Teague, Walton, Moses and Persons are not maximized.
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BGSU
Mar 15, 2019 20:53:05 GMT -6
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 15, 2019 20:53:05 GMT -6
you think I Teague is gone after this year? That would be a brutal blow. Yes!! I said this is a post a few days ago, I think he's outta there and will be looking for a team where he can be on a winning team that can go somewhere. I also think Gunn might go also but only because he believes he's a whole lot better in his own head than what he truly is and wants to be "the guy" on a team where he's the center of attention. I could be wrong on both but as I said we'll see. I've said before that Teague would be better served by transferring, but I'm not sure he recognizes that. He may be frustrated with this season and he may be lured by the sweet talk of another coach, but he doesn't strike me as the type of player who wants to accept a lesser role in a better program, even if it means a winning program. Can't imagine an equal or better program who'd whisper sweet nothings into Gunn's ear given what he has shown. He might want to go but I can only imagine a lesser program that might give him what he wants.
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BGSU
Mar 15, 2019 20:54:29 GMT -6
Post by redfeather on Mar 15, 2019 20:54:29 GMT -6
Okay ever thing I just posted about was already talked about in other comments, next I'll read through the entire thread before posting...
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Post by redfeather on Mar 15, 2019 21:00:55 GMT -6
Yes!! I said this is a post a few days ago, I think he's outta there and will be looking for a team where he can be on a winning team that can go somewhere. I also think Gunn might go also but only because he believes he's a whole lot better in his own head than what he truly is and wants to be "the guy" on a team where he's the center of attention. I could be wrong on both but as I said we'll see. I've said before that Teague would be better served by transferring, but I'm not sure he recognizes that. He may be frustrated with this season and he may be lured by the sweet talk of another coach, but he doesn't strike me as the type of player who wants to accept a lesser role in a better program, even if it means a winning program. Can't imagine an equal or better program who'd whisper sweet nothings into Gunn's ear given what he has shown. He might want to go but I can only imagine a lesser program that might give him what he wants. I think if Gunn bails it will be to a team in a lower rated conference, think Horizon, Summitt etc. where he can jack 3's all day long and not have to worry about playing defense on any of the "other" bothersome vital components of good sound team play!
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 16, 2019 1:01:44 GMT -6
I’m going to reiterate that there is plenty of blame to go around including the Coaching but if you truly don’t think any blame goes to the players..I mean come on.
You must be self motivated to be the best you can be in anything. Period and in my view not even a discussion.
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BGSU
Mar 16, 2019 5:40:38 GMT -6
Post by sweep on Mar 16, 2019 5:40:38 GMT -6
Yes!! I said this is a post a few days ago, I think he's outta there and will be looking for a team where he can be on a winning team that can go somewhere. I also think Gunn might go also but only because he believes he's a whole lot better in his own head than what he truly is and wants to be "the guy" on a team where he's the center of attention. I could be wrong on both but as I said we'll see. I've said before that Teague would be better served by transferring, but I'm not sure he recognizes that. He may be frustrated with this season and he may be lured by the sweet talk of another coach, but he doesn't strike me as the type of player who wants to accept a lesser role in a better program, even if it means a winning program. Can't imagine an equal or better program who'd whisper sweet nothings into Gunn's ear given what he has shown. He might want to go but I can only imagine a lesser program that might give him what he wants. I think Gunn would be best served to look for a situation like UIndy or something similar.
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BGSU
Mar 16, 2019 7:29:51 GMT -6
Post by realitycheck on Mar 16, 2019 7:29:51 GMT -6
I’m going to reiterate that there is plenty of blame to go around including the Coaching but if you truly don’t think any blame goes to the players..I mean come on. You must be self motivated to be the best you can be in anything. Period and in my view not even a discussion. Not including the coaching, Kid, STARTING with the coaching.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 16, 2019 8:43:49 GMT -6
I’m going to reiterate that there is plenty of blame to go around including the Coaching but if you truly don’t think any blame goes to the players..I mean come on. You must be self motivated to be the best you can be in anything. Period and in my view not even a discussion. Not including the coaching, Kid, STARTING with the coaching. Yeah. Why even have a coach if it’s on the players to do it themselves? I’ll say it again— it’s the coach’s job to recruit the type of players who will put forth the effort and have the right mindset. Coaches don’t or shouldn’t recruit kids and then tell them “ok you’re on your own now.” You take kids you know are coachable and will take the coaching necessary to get better. AND they are self motivated. Not either or. You don’t recruit kids you have to push from sun up to sundown to get anything out of them. Whit needs to be a better evaluator of both talent and heart. Identify kids with motors who WANT to be great. Not kids just happy to be here and have a “whatever” attitude. If he’s got a roster full of kids who are not self motivated to get better that is on him. And, if he’s failing to push the team to get better that is also on him.
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BGSU
Mar 16, 2019 16:06:55 GMT -6
Post by CallingBS on Mar 16, 2019 16:06:55 GMT -6
It all starts with recruiting. I don't know why you apologists struggle with this most basic of concept so much. If those kids were not self starters, then that's on the coach who signed them. Whitford is responsible for building his roster - no one else. I believe the saying is that the buck stops here.
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BGSU
Mar 16, 2019 19:01:19 GMT -6
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Post by ballman on Mar 16, 2019 19:01:19 GMT -6
BGSU coach did a fantastic job st half time adjusting. Can we hire him? He knows what he is doing. I guess we got to fire the dummy first...ha
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