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Post by lmills72 on Mar 15, 2019 21:19:06 GMT -6
So, assuming Goetz would like to make a change and move away from Whitford but that her hands are tied either financially or by the BOT (probably the same), is there another option?
Something Tarheel posted previously about Purdue pushing Keady out by hiring Painter got me thinking ...
What if Goetz promotes Grunk to something like co-coach? Throws a couple thousand extra bucks his way and tells him the team is basically his. He's got a year or 2 to prove himself and if he does well the gig is his full-time. Publicly, he and Whitford are co-coaches, but in actuality it's Grunk's team to run.
Now, I'm already on record as saying I don't think Grunk would have been a guy I'd be interested in hiring as a head coach had Whitford found another job, but rather than face another year like the one we've just watched, I'm willing to see what he's got.
Obviously, there are a ton of landmines attached to this idea. First, Grunk could just refuse. As a member of Whitford's staff, I can't imagine him being a cutthroat guy. Recruiting would likely be a challenge, but it's probably not going to get any worse and next year's team is already committed barring possible departures. However, all the current and committed players know Grunk so I don't see increased departures with such a move. Whitford likely would be pissed, but would he be a cancer and sabotage his longtime assistant? I'm not sure that's in his make-up. Perhaps Whit might be pissed enough that he would walk away from the rest of his contract for an assistant gig somewhere else. If not, maybe he would be a decent assistant here.
I know this sounds wild, but I think I've gone crazy faced with 3 more seasons like the one we just witnessed and am searching for anything that might save me from that ... short of just walking away from the program altogether.
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Post by cardinalfan007 on Mar 15, 2019 22:28:59 GMT -6
So, assuming Goetz would like to make a change and move away from Whitford but that her hands are tied either financially or by the BOT (probably the same), is there another option? Something Tarheel posted previously about Purdue pushing Keady out by hiring Painter got me thinking ... What if Goetz promotes Grunk to something like co-coach? Throws a couple thousand extra bucks his way and tells him the team is basically his. He's got a year or 2 to prove himself and if he does well the gig is his full-time. Publicly, he and Whitford are co-coaches, but in actuality it's Grunk's team to run. Now, I'm already on record as saying I don't think Grunk would have been a guy I'd be interested in hiring as a head coach had Whitford found another job, but rather than face another year like the one we've just watched, I'm willing to see what he's got. Obviously, there are a ton of landmines attached to this idea. First, Grunk could just refuse. As a member of Whitford's staff, I can't imagine him being a cutthroat guy. Recruiting would likely be a challenge, but it's probably not going to get any worse and next year's team is already committed barring possible departures. However, all the current and committed players know Grunk so I don't see increased departures with such a move. Whitford likely would be pissed, but would he be a cancer and sabotage his longtime assistant? I'm not sure that's in his make-up. Perhaps Whit might be pissed enough that he would walk away from the rest of his contract for an assistant gig somewhere else. If not, maybe he would be a decent assistant here. I know this sounds wild, but I think I've gone crazy faced with 3 more seasons like the one we just witnessed and am searching for anything that might save me from that ... short of just walking away from the program altogether. would be interesting but idk how a team would respond to that, and that would cause a lot of turmoil I feel like
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 15, 2019 22:34:21 GMT -6
So, assuming Goetz would like to make a change and move away from Whitford but that her hands are tied either financially or by the BOT (probably the same), is there another option? Something Tarheel posted previously about Purdue pushing Keady out by hiring Painter got me thinking ... What if Goetz promotes Grunk to something like co-coach? Throws a couple thousand extra bucks his way and tells him the team is basically his. He's got a year or 2 to prove himself and if he does well the gig is his full-time. Publicly, he and Whitford are co-coaches, but in actuality it's Grunk's team to run. Now, I'm already on record as saying I don't think Grunk would have been a guy I'd be interested in hiring as a head coach had Whitford found another job, but rather than face another year like the one we've just watched, I'm willing to see what he's got. Obviously, there are a ton of landmines attached to this idea. First, Grunk could just refuse. As a member of Whitford's staff, I can't imagine him being a cutthroat guy. Recruiting would likely be a challenge, but it's probably not going to get any worse and next year's team is already committed barring possible departures. However, all the current and committed players know Grunk so I don't see increased departures with such a move. Whitford likely would be pissed, but would he be a cancer and sabotage his longtime assistant? I'm not sure that's in his make-up. Perhaps Whit might be pissed enough that he would walk away from the rest of his contract for an assistant gig somewhere else. If not, maybe he would be a decent assistant here. I know this sounds wild, but I think I've gone crazy faced with 3 more seasons like the one we just witnessed and am searching for anything that might save me from that ... short of just walking away from the program altogether. Haven’t you learned from Rob not to drunk post?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 15, 2019 23:43:13 GMT -6
So, assuming Goetz would like to make a change and move away from Whitford but that her hands are tied either financially or by the BOT (probably the same), is there another option? Something Tarheel posted previously about Purdue pushing Keady out by hiring Painter got me thinking ... What if Goetz promotes Grunk to something like co-coach? Throws a couple thousand extra bucks his way and tells him the team is basically his. He's got a year or 2 to prove himself and if he does well the gig is his full-time. Publicly, he and Whitford are co-coaches, but in actuality it's Grunk's team to run. Now, I'm already on record as saying I don't think Grunk would have been a guy I'd be interested in hiring as a head coach had Whitford found another job, but rather than face another year like the one we've just watched, I'm willing to see what he's got. Obviously, there are a ton of landmines attached to this idea. First, Grunk could just refuse. As a member of Whitford's staff, I can't imagine him being a cutthroat guy. Recruiting would likely be a challenge, but it's probably not going to get any worse and next year's team is already committed barring possible departures. However, all the current and committed players know Grunk so I don't see increased departures with such a move. Whitford likely would be pissed, but would he be a cancer and sabotage his longtime assistant? I'm not sure that's in his make-up. Perhaps Whit might be pissed enough that he would walk away from the rest of his contract for an assistant gig somewhere else. If not, maybe he would be a decent assistant here. I know this sounds wild, but I think I've gone crazy faced with 3 more seasons like the one we just witnessed and am searching for anything that might save me from that ... short of just walking away from the program altogether. Haven’t you learned from Rob not to drunk post? Hey Im drunk right now and posting.. I have not even said anything dumb yet
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Post by sweep on Mar 16, 2019 5:42:38 GMT -6
So, assuming Goetz would like to make a change and move away from Whitford but that her hands are tied either financially or by the BOT (probably the same), is there another option? Something Tarheel posted previously about Purdue pushing Keady out by hiring Painter got me thinking ... What if Goetz promotes Grunk to something like co-coach? Throws a couple thousand extra bucks his way and tells him the team is basically his. He's got a year or 2 to prove himself and if he does well the gig is his full-time. Publicly, he and Whitford are co-coaches, but in actuality it's Grunk's team to run. Now, I'm already on record as saying I don't think Grunk would have been a guy I'd be interested in hiring as a head coach had Whitford found another job, but rather than face another year like the one we've just watched, I'm willing to see what he's got. Obviously, there are a ton of landmines attached to this idea. First, Grunk could just refuse. As a member of Whitford's staff, I can't imagine him being a cutthroat guy. Recruiting would likely be a challenge, but it's probably not going to get any worse and next year's team is already committed barring possible departures. However, all the current and committed players know Grunk so I don't see increased departures with such a move. Whitford likely would be pissed, but would he be a cancer and sabotage his longtime assistant? I'm not sure that's in his make-up. Perhaps Whit might be pissed enough that he would walk away from the rest of his contract for an assistant gig somewhere else. If not, maybe he would be a decent assistant here. I know this sounds wild, but I think I've gone crazy faced with 3 more seasons like the one we just witnessed and am searching for anything that might save me from that ... short of just walking away from the program altogether. I don't think that would work and I wouldn't want Grunk anyway. This program needs to go a completely different direction. I'd rather suffer through Whitford for two more seasons than try some scheme like this.
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Post by ruffledfeathers on Mar 16, 2019 7:45:52 GMT -6
So, assuming Goetz would like to make a change and move away from Whitford but that her hands are tied either financially or by the BOT (probably the same), is there another option? Something Tarheel posted previously about Purdue pushing Keady out by hiring Painter got me thinking ... What if Goetz promotes Grunk to something like co-coach? Throws a couple thousand extra bucks his way and tells him the team is basically his. He's got a year or 2 to prove himself and if he does well the gig is his full-time. Publicly, he and Whitford are co-coaches, but in actuality it's Grunk's team to run. Now, I'm already on record as saying I don't think Grunk would have been a guy I'd be interested in hiring as a head coach had Whitford found another job, but rather than face another year like the one we've just watched, I'm willing to see what he's got. Obviously, there are a ton of landmines attached to this idea. First, Grunk could just refuse. As a member of Whitford's staff, I can't imagine him being a cutthroat guy. Recruiting would likely be a challenge, but it's probably not going to get any worse and next year's team is already committed barring possible departures. However, all the current and committed players know Grunk so I don't see increased departures with such a move. Whitford likely would be pissed, but would he be a cancer and sabotage his longtime assistant? I'm not sure that's in his make-up. Perhaps Whit might be pissed enough that he would walk away from the rest of his contract for an assistant gig somewhere else. If not, maybe he would be a decent assistant here. I know this sounds wild, but I think I've gone crazy faced with 3 more seasons like the one we just witnessed and am searching for anything that might save me from that ... short of just walking away from the program altogether.
I like the outside the box thinking. Lots of things would need to be worked for this to have a chance. Would Grunk hire an agent and demand some sort of contract, even a very short term contract. The college coaching profession in basketball and football seem to be very loyal, much like law enforcement. But Whit has kept Grunk for 6 years, so they obviously also like each other.
I don't think this idea is a half baked one.
Go Cards!
RF
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 16, 2019 8:35:20 GMT -6
It’s not even half baked it’s ludicrous and would never happen. Cmon.
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 16, 2019 10:58:47 GMT -6
I don't think that would work and I wouldn't want Grunk anyway. This program needs to go a completely different direction. I'd rather suffer through Whitford for two more seasons than try some scheme like this. I know it's crazy and the idea of Grunk doesn't excite me, but right now I am willing to try about anything other than sit through another season like this past one. As a BSU fan anymore, I feel like the only thing I have is the hope that is somehow replenished in the off-season. With the prospect of Whitford remaining, I don't see that reservoir of hope filling back up between now and next fall.
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Post by bsu1 on Mar 16, 2019 13:03:06 GMT -6
Do you see a chance Whit sees the writing on the wall and would take an assistant position elsewhere? Or is that hopeful thinking?
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Post by cardfan on Mar 16, 2019 13:06:49 GMT -6
Do you see a chance Whit sees the writing on the wall and would take an assistant position elsewhere? Or is that hopeful thinking? No way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 13:47:58 GMT -6
A program overhaul is required.
Would love to have a coach with a fundamental concentrated mindset. I love watching John Beilein's (Michigan) teams play. No top recruits but always competitive with tenacity, and defensive intensity. Get one of his assistants or someone from a successful small mid major run(as he came from before West Virginia) that has their team's fight like his do. Championship game last year, lost several players and are going for a 3 peat for the Big 10 tourney championship. They seem to lose only when they go extremely cold with shooting. Fighters.
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 16, 2019 13:51:49 GMT -6
WHO WOULD HIRE HIM?
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 16, 2019 13:53:00 GMT -6
Of course I am referring to Whit.
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 16, 2019 16:42:54 GMT -6
Well, nobody of course. I mean, he probably has enough connections to get an assistant gig somewhere if he really wanted to walk away, but nobody would hire him as a head coach.
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Post by bsu1 on Mar 16, 2019 17:00:43 GMT -6
Maybe someone whose program is in the pits and needs to be brought back to respectability, ike we were.
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