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Post by Bigfoot on Aug 17, 2019 9:38:30 GMT -6
Any new up and coming coach is going to leave if the option is there. Mac is near bottom of coaches salaries as a conference and BSU is middle to bottom of the MAC. Thats why I often wonder if would not be better to take the Ohio approach find a guy like Solich. He does not need the money but still has a desire to coach. Many of these guys who get fired at big time schools are good coaches but expectations are so high they are often never met. The key to hiring a retread is how and if he can build a staff. If you get a good head coach/strategist and surround him with some cool dudes that can recruit you can succeed anywhere I am all for idea of hiring an ex power 5 head coach that didn't work. Central just did that with McElwain. Same thing Ohio did and it has worked great for them!
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Post by rgmillikan on Aug 17, 2019 9:43:25 GMT -6
NOT SO FAST: Lets look at Brady Hoke’s record prior to going 12-0 during the regular season in 2008. Damn good thing we didn’t let him go after the first 4 years! 2003 - 4-8 2004 - 2-9 2005 - 4-7 2006 - 5-7 2007 - 7-6 2008 - 12-1 The 05 team played arguably the toughest nonconference schedule in the country. The 06 team played IU and Michigan tough and went 5-3 in the MAC plus future was looking brighter with underclassmen.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 17, 2019 9:49:55 GMT -6
To work longer term this gambit of hiring a failed P5 coach has to include funding that would longer term pay more than we pay. To reward success but also to retain. Assuming we find such a coach happy to return to lower level football longer term, and isn't looking for a one or two and done situation.
If highly successful, as we would hope, such a coach gets better offers soon. Not just better money, but better budget for staff and other things, better fan support, and so on. I don't think there is a free lunch here.
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Post by sweep on Aug 17, 2019 11:26:04 GMT -6
Any new up and coming coach is going to leave if the option is there. Mac is near bottom of coaches salaries as a conference and BSU is middle to bottom of the MAC. Thats why I often wonder if would not be better to take the Ohio approach find a guy like Solich. He does not need the money but still has a desire to coach. Many of these guys who get fired at big time schools are good coaches but expectations are so high they are often never met. The key to hiring a retread is how and if he can build a staff. If you get a good head coach/strategist and surround him with some cool dudes that can recruit you can succeed anywhere I am all for idea of hiring an ex power 5 head coach that didn't work. Central just did that with McElwain. If it's a rebuilding situation I think an ex power five is definitely the way to go.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 17, 2019 11:43:42 GMT -6
So when I apply to be the next Ad are you guys going to try and get me hired.. I mean Im going on 15 years of having the best ideas this message board has ever seen
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 17, 2019 12:12:12 GMT -6
I am all for idea of hiring an ex power 5 head coach that didn't work. Central just did that with McElwain. If it's a rebuilding situation I think an ex power five is definitely the way to go. If the rebuild involves additional funding, OK. If we have the talent and the budget to attract a coach. Whether it's a guy moving down for long term or looking for a place to score and return to the bright lights they will be looking for both.
But right now we aren't there, and have to worry about getting through the next budget year, not what would be best in an ideal world.
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Post by chirpchirpnation on Oct 12, 2019 17:42:19 GMT -6
Is it cooling down?
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Post by bsutony on Oct 12, 2019 17:53:03 GMT -6
Yes, but they need to show they can play at this level for the entire season. In past years the team has gotten worse as the season went on.
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Post by BSUMike on Oct 12, 2019 17:53:54 GMT -6
I’d say we are simmering right now. Keep the heat on but at a low temperature.
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Post by connecticutcard on Oct 12, 2019 17:54:32 GMT -6
Well if I were our coaches, I wouldn’t send our 4th quarter film to any potential school when looking for a new job. If we were ever to turn the corner and start to win consistently we can always hope this film shows up and convinces the school not to hire our staff
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Post by bsutony on Oct 12, 2019 17:58:00 GMT -6
Well if I were our coaches, I wouldn’t send our 4th quarter film to any potential school when looking for a new job. If we were ever to turn the corner and start to win consistently we can always hope this film shows up and convinces the school not to hire our staff Was the coaching really that bad?
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Post by cardfan on Oct 12, 2019 17:58:19 GMT -6
Yes, but they need to show they can play at this level for the entire season. In past years the team has gotten worse as the season went on. Dead on.
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Post by connecticutcard on Oct 12, 2019 18:13:51 GMT -6
Well if I were our coaches, I wouldn’t send our 4th quarter film to any potential school when looking for a new job. If we were ever to turn the corner and start to win consistently we can always hope this film shows up and convinces the school not to hire our staff Was the coaching really that bad? Yes. Snapping with 15+ seconds left less than 5 minutes left in game. . Getting a delay of game coming out of a timeout. You wanted to pull your hair out.
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Post by connecticutcard on Oct 12, 2019 18:17:25 GMT -6
Yes, but they need to show they can play at this level for the entire season. In past years the team has gotten worse as the season went on. It’s been a while since we’ve been 2-0 in conference I’m pretty sure. When you win only 2-4 conference games a season the season can’t get much better when you start 2-0
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Post by cardfan on Oct 12, 2019 18:20:14 GMT -6
Was the coaching really that bad? Yes. Snapping with 15+ seconds left less than 5 minutes left in game. . Getting a delay of game coming out of a timeout. You wanted to pull your hair out. And going to the very soft prevent on EMU’s last drive. Almost gave it away.
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