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Post by fkfootball on Aug 20, 2019 18:25:01 GMT -6
You guys could be like us. Every year is our “breakout year.” It never comes. Lol. I guess a broken clock isn’t right 2 times a day? Reality is IU and BSU football are not all that different lol.. Excett your millions and big 10 money.. We are slumming with MAC deals Well, we have stopped recruiting MAC talent(no pun intended), and started recruiting legit Big Ten talent so I am interested to see if that narrative will change.
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Post by cardfan on Aug 20, 2019 19:26:14 GMT -6
The last few recruiting classes for IU are far better than what they’d been doing. And blow ours way out of the water.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 20, 2019 19:33:16 GMT -6
Agreed as much as I hate to say it I think IU is trending up..
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Aug 21, 2019 5:15:04 GMT -6
Agreed as much as I hate to say it I think IU is trending up.. In the Big 10 the highest they can trend is winning the low tier bowl games. Maybe the occasional upset of OSU or UM.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 21, 2019 10:25:21 GMT -6
Agreed as much as I hate to say it I think IU is trending up.. In the Big 10 the highest they can trend is winning the low tier bowl games. Maybe the occasional upset of OSU or UM. True but thats better than they have been in a long time
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Post by david75bsu on Aug 21, 2019 10:36:45 GMT -6
In the Big 10 the highest they can trend is winning the low tier bowl games. Maybe the occasional upset of OSU or UM. True but thats better than they have been in a long time Their low tier bowl would rate higher than any MAC bowl tier bowl. But I totally dislike TSIB, though softening some with their willingness to play the CARDS.
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Post by fkfootball on Aug 21, 2019 19:20:38 GMT -6
Agreed as much as I hate to say it I think IU is trending up.. In the Big 10 the highest they can trend is winning the low tier bowl games. Maybe the occasional upset of OSU or UM. We would take 7-5 every season. Playing in the Big Ten East is brutal.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 22, 2019 8:33:25 GMT -6
In the Big 10 the highest they can trend is winning the low tier bowl games. Maybe the occasional upset of OSU or UM. We would take 7-5 every season. Playing in the Big Ten East is brutal. Unless your a power house football school thats all anyone should expect 7-5 6-6 in an off year. Every once throw in an 8-9 win season and if you get lucky with a good group maybe something magical happens
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 22, 2019 14:51:40 GMT -6
Makes perfect sense. But. Is that what we recognize and expect for BSU sports? Who expects sense anyway from fans?
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Post by comet on Aug 22, 2019 15:26:41 GMT -6
No, it's not what I expect. I feel we should be much better than that in the MAC. Our conference doesn't have the huge differential of talent that the BiG10 does. IU, versus the "studs" in the Big10 is just not likely to change and there are teams that they have to play where they are likely to be the underdog virtually every year. Most of the IU fans wo0n't agree, but I think 6 to 7 wins on a regular basis with an occasional 8 or maybe even 9 would be very, very good for them. In general they can't compete, but I still think we can in the MAC. In my opinion, there is no reason why we should have some of those 9, 10 and maybe 11 win seasons.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 22, 2019 15:53:25 GMT -6
No, it's not what I expect. I feel we should be much better than that in the MAC. Our conference doesn't have the huge differential of talent that the BiG10 does. Wait a minute. If we are supposed to expect 7-5 every year playing two money games where we rarely have a chance, and the talent in the MAC is evenly distributed relatively, why does that mean we can expect better than 7-5 in the overwhelming number of seasons? Why are we the class of the MAC to be winning 8-10 games?
I could see us having a few more of the 8-10 win seasons than IU for that reason where we might expect to sweep MAC opponents perhaps in a freak year, IU could not expect that ever, I agree there. But that balanced MAC talent seems to me to make if very rare we go out and find a MAC schedule so weak we can sweep, and awfully likely we run into more years where being at all weak means we can't get to 7-5.
After all this is not basketball where we have the godlike power to always be above average and usually dominate.
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Post by fkfootball on Aug 23, 2019 9:30:01 GMT -6
We would take 7-5 every season. Playing in the Big Ten East is brutal. Unless your a power house football school thats all anyone should expect 7-5 6-6 in an off year. Every once throw in an 8-9 win season and if you get lucky with a good group maybe something magical happens Indiana can win the Big Ten in any sport, except football. It is never going to happen.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 23, 2019 9:40:20 GMT -6
For us 8-9 win seasons are really hard to come by especially if we always play 2 "money games" and one toss up.. Some years we would be 2-2 Some 1-3 and the very rare every 20 year 3-1 or 4-0.. Its just really hard to think we could ever be at the level where we can expect to go 6-2 in the mac on a yearly basis
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 23, 2019 10:02:29 GMT -6
Over the last 10 years the only teams that have consistently got to 8 or over Are NIU (8 times) Toledo(7 times) and Ohio(8 times). That is also based on a 13-14 game schedule so it takes in Mac champs and bowl wins.. Every other team has reached the 8 win mark has done 1-4 times.
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Post by redbirdman on Aug 23, 2019 15:31:43 GMT -6
Ohio has traditionally played fewer money games than the other MAC schools. The entire conference has worked hard to play 2 home games in the non conference games. I do note that the past 3 yrs Kent has only played 1 home non conference game.The following P5 schools have played at a MAC school in the past 6 yrs (includes this season)Kansas-twice with a loss at Ohio,Baylor,Pittsburgh,Is St twice,Indiana lost at BG, Maryland,Missouri, Miami(fl),Michigan St,, Syracuse,Utah,& Boston College. So MAC schools are 2-12 at home against P5 schools in past 5 yrs.
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