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Post by ballstfan on Oct 19, 2019 17:24:50 GMT -6
I was wrong about Mike. Glad I was as a fellow BSU alum. Hope he get us to Detroit and wins the whole damn thing.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Oct 19, 2019 17:27:34 GMT -6
The jury is still out on Mike but it just feels like an extension will happen regardless of how you feel now. Extend it a couple and see what happens. Do not get carried away and make it long term. There is also no need for a raise
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Post by CallingBS on Oct 19, 2019 18:14:23 GMT -6
Extending now would be a management blunder. A knee jerk decision following a little euphoric success shouldn’t be what we expect out of a decent AD. Look what her predecessor got us into. It could be that NIU and Toledo are just 2019 MAC bottom dwellers. She needs to let it play out. Do you extend for just a year? Do you extend with more money? Do you extend for multiple years with a “microscopic buyout” clause? Totally agree. No reason to do it yet. His entire body of work is still garbage. He needs to prove he can see this through.
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Post by lmills72 on Oct 19, 2019 18:33:41 GMT -6
If the recruiting is a little lackluster so be it, but I don't think you screw with the mojo of this team or coaching staff right now.
Maybe part of these wins comes from an us-against-the-world, nobody-gives-us-any-respect, gotta-save-our-coach's-job mentality. Don't toy with that by taking that chip off their shoulder.
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Post by rgmillikan on Oct 19, 2019 19:42:35 GMT -6
As far as an extension, I'd rather wait until win #6 to offer it. I think odds of 6 wins have gone up by another 15-20% today but I want it to happen first and foremost just to guard against any unforeseen late MAC collapses.
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Post by connecticutcard on Oct 19, 2019 20:10:59 GMT -6
Do it now and save money. Legit chance of west championship. If he gets our first ever bowl win, you back yourself into corner if they win it. We may be on some counter cyclical circadian rhythm where we are up once every 5-6 years when others are down as they reload. That’s the real risk. But gotta pay the man when he does perform.
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Post by lmills72 on Oct 19, 2019 20:22:48 GMT -6
Do it now and save money. Legit chance of west championship. If he gets our first ever bowl win, you back yourself into corner if they win it. We may be on some counter cyclical circadian rhythm where we are up once every 5-6 years when others are down as they reload. That’s the real risk. But gotta pay the man when he does perform. Back ourselves into a corner? Save money? What are you talking about?
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Post by connecticutcard on Oct 19, 2019 20:32:27 GMT -6
Do it now and save money. Legit chance of west championship. If he gets our first ever bowl win, you back yourself into corner if they win it. We may be on some counter cyclical circadian rhythm where we are up once every 5-6 years when others are down as they reload. That’s the real risk. But gotta pay the man when he does perform. Back ourselves into a corner? Save money? What are you talking about? I’m not sure your confusion to my post...If you wait to give him an extension after we win a championship then you, the AD, lose leverage. You save money if you pay him now. You pay him now and we beat NIU and UT because it’s a once in a 5 year cycle we are better and it’s not because we’ve actually built our program to be a consistent success, then next year, you the AD, look foolish. But then you try to hire a new coach and they see what you didn’t do the last time you had a successful year and didn’t extend and you struggle to hire a competent coach.
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Post by connecticutcard on Oct 19, 2019 20:35:42 GMT -6
My post suggested to see through all that noise and just pay the man ( extend the contract) because he’s won. And to do it now because if you wait then it’ll only get more costly because you lose leverage with every win we get.
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Post by cardfan on Oct 19, 2019 20:42:39 GMT -6
Or we take a chance and extend him now and we manage to not win again and then what?
Bsu won’t talk contract til the season is over. Pull the trigger too soon and you HAVE backed yourself into a corner. As we did with Whitford.
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Post by bsutony on Oct 19, 2019 20:49:17 GMT -6
All I know is that I didn’t even expect us to be having this conversation a month ago.
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Post by lmills72 on Oct 19, 2019 22:55:54 GMT -6
My post suggested to see through all that noise and just pay the man ( extend the contract) because he’s won. And to do it now because if you wait then it’ll only get more costly because you lose leverage with every win we get. I guess I don't understand your "leverage" comment. You must mean that either: A) If we continue to win, he can demand more money for the extension than he would ask for right now, or B) That other schools will come courting him and he'll be more tempted to go because we didn't pay up as much as he wanted. In the case of B, if other schools come courting (which I think is very unlikely) and he wants to go, an extension now or later makes no difference. In the case of A, this is a guy that was a minute away from being fired 3 weeks ago. You've gone from one extreme to the other in 3 weeks. That's cuckoo. I like New but if he tries to hold the school ransom for one good year, I'd say adios. On the other hand, he finishes strong this year and repeats the following year with another good season, then wants to renegotiate ... I might be inclined to talk.
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Post by rgmillikan on Oct 20, 2019 8:31:02 GMT -6
Or we take a chance and extend him now and we manage to not win again and then what? Bsu won’t talk contract til the season is over. Pull the trigger too soon and you HAVE backed yourself into a corner. As we did with Whitford. Great comparison to Whitford. Weve seen the perils of the basketball program jumping the gun on such moves. I think Neu is "trending" towards one but 4-3 imo is too soon for making the call.
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Post by redbirdman on Oct 20, 2019 8:49:15 GMT -6
No don't give an extension until after the season. Hold off on salary increases to I have never known A MAC school to keep a coach if a P5 school offers them a job so an increase & contract does not hold them if their in demand.
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Post by BSUMike on Oct 20, 2019 10:04:26 GMT -6
I jokingly said extend Neu at half time. I don’t think there is a rush to do so - we can wait a couple weeks or even at end of year, but I hope it happens. I like him personally and I think he finally has us on the right track.
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