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Post by david75bsu on May 24, 2020 6:34:16 GMT -6
Looking at players, we are short on guards! Here is my projection: Coleman/Tameemu Ish/Luke Bum’ Kani/Gunn Thomas/Hazen Hendricks/Huggins God team, possible. Still sad how last season ended, we were on a major uptick with the bench becoming a major factor. Hope we see a season for basketball, for football.
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Post by 00hmh on May 24, 2020 7:48:23 GMT -6
Who knows until we see practice. But with Coleman Ish Bumbalough as returning starters plus KJ who started early on, and the transfer Jones I am inclined to start with 3 of those 5 there and add in Hazen and Thomas. If Jones is eligible he will either start or be first off the bench. Whether Huggins, Windham if eligible, or Tameenu are ready to play it's hard to tell until practice but we have 9 or 10 players who might get starters minutes, with Ish, Coleman, Jones, Bumbalough, Hazen KJ known quantities and Acree, Thomas, Gunn, Hendricks needing to step up a bit to get that PT.
Could be a good athletic roster with more shooting than last year. But missing Teague very much.
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Post by david75bsu on May 24, 2020 8:55:50 GMT -6
Forgot about KJ, that is a real help. Sure wish he had some sort of an outside shot! Really think Thomas starts with Hazen as backup. Thomas can shoot can/will shoot the three and rebounds better than Hazen. Really like the play of Acree, with Gunn as a backup. This team could be pretty good, but only time will tell. I do not believe the transfers will be able to play this fall.
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Post by 00hmh on May 24, 2020 11:13:53 GMT -6
If everything works out with Jones he is a reasonable replacement for Mallers. Or some combination of the others could come close there.
Replacing Teague for 30 minutes a game is the problem. I can see his scoring redistributed. Acree, Thomas, Coleman, Bumbalough, KJ and others all can probably do that.
On the boards and inside D, it has to be by committee too. Thomas and the others have to step up their game substantially to even come close.
It is not an unreasonable prospect that players can improve and can be used different to make up some of the loss, but unless we see some breakout player, the only good news is whoever is playing in Teague's place can probably shoot the 3 better...
Hendricks has some scoring potential and he has some length, but he has to be stronger to play very much. He's a little bigger than Taj as a sophomore, probably more of a shooter. But compared to Teague as a senior, that is not going to happen.
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Post by david75bsu on May 24, 2020 11:45:04 GMT -6
Agree about Hendricks, but he will need to get playing time in pre-conference to get there as will Huggins. The pre-conference record does not matter, it’s a time to get experience for players.
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Post by lmills72 on May 24, 2020 16:23:19 GMT -6
Agree about Hendricks, but he will need to get playing time in pre-conference to get there as will Huggins. The pre-conference record does not matter, it’s a time to get experience for players. So says you. However, that's not the way Coach Whitford typically approaches things.
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Post by david75bsu on May 24, 2020 16:26:06 GMT -6
Agree about Hendricks, but he will need to get playing time in pre-conference to get there as will Huggins. The pre-conference record does not matter, it’s a time to get experience for players. So says you. However, that's not the way Coach Whitford typically approaches things. True! Sadly!!!
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Post by david75bsu on May 24, 2020 19:02:19 GMT -6
Looking at players, we are short on guards! Here is my projection: Coleman/Tameemu Ish/Luke Bum’ Kani/Gunn Thomas/Hazen Hendricks/Huggins God team, possible. Still sad how last season ended, we were on a major uptick with the bench becoming a major factor. Hope we see a season for basketball, for football. Two changes at guard: Coleman/ Luke Ish/ KJ
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Post by 00hmh on May 24, 2020 19:08:36 GMT -6
Agree about Hendricks, but he will need to get playing time in pre-conference to get there as will Huggins. The pre-conference record does not matter, it’s a time to get experience for players. So says you. However, that's not the way Coach Whitford typically approaches things. There is a trade off in winning games...
And, playing people who are not ready for the sake of "development" is usually what you do when you do not have enough good players to expect to win games. Whitford did plenty of that in year one and two.
Development takes place mostly in practice by running competitive practices and pushing players there. If you don't play a player with others who are regulars against opponents playing their rotation players, the experience isn't all that valuable.
Game experience perhaps more important when you plan on using them later in the year. I have not seen many cases where both those things were true for us.
Last year I thought we might have played Huggins and Hendricks a few more minutes throughout the year, but it would have been a very few minutes and not very significant since I don't see how they would have gotten much significant PT at any point in the year. That was not in the plan. I don't see that many programs who do it very much differently. Not when they have 8 or 9 deep established.
Who did you see last year or two or three who would have been both ready to play more and would have been needed? Where was it we suffered because they lacked a few minutes a game more PT?
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Post by thebsukid on May 26, 2020 11:51:51 GMT -6
If Jones is eligible he will likely be in the mix as well.
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Post by david75bsu on May 26, 2020 12:45:04 GMT -6
If Jones is eligible he will likely be in the mix as well. have to agree on this!
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 26, 2020 14:11:30 GMT -6
This is the first year in a long time that no one of us really know what will happen.. Outside of Boogie and Ish I think you just have to play who is doing the best in a given week of practice
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Post by CallingBS on May 26, 2020 21:20:48 GMT -6
This is the first year in a long time that no one of us really know what will happen.. Outside of Boogie and Ish I think you just have to play who is doing the best in a given week of practice Will anyone else ever shoot besides Coleman and Ish? It will be something to watch them fight for the ball all season.
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Post by realitycheck on May 27, 2020 12:58:45 GMT -6
This is the first year in a long time that no one of us really know what will happen.. Outside of Boogie and Ish I think you just have to play who is doing the best in a given week of practice That's really not Whitford's M.O. Unless you screw up something basic or worse, he likes to set a lineup and stick with it. Teague, Mallers, Ish, Coleman, Bumb last year and Persons and Moses before that. We are likely going to start three guards (Ish, Boog & Bumb or maybe Walton) and probably Acree. I think Hazen will all depend on how he comes back. He needs to bulk up and play with some moxie instead of being the class clown otherwise you may see Thomas or Hendriks or Gunn as a starter. I am proceeding with the assumption that the two transfers will not be eligible until someone tells me why they would be.
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Post by 00hmh on May 27, 2020 13:11:14 GMT -6
This is the first year in a long time that no one of us really know what will happen.. Outside of Boogie and Ish I think you just have to play who is doing the best in a given week of practice I am proceeding with the assumption that the two transfers will not be eligible until someone tells me why they would be. The NCAA has in the past allowed some players to be eligible. It has been very unpredictable, inconsistent and seeming arbitrary. That's why the new rule was proposed to eliminate doubt in addition to make it more frequently an option.
When the new rule change was being discussed and the delay happened I recall a quote from an NCAA official indicating this year might involve some leniency due to transfers close to home due to virus concerns.
Our two transfers have full support from their previous school and that's a plus. Lack of any disciplinary or academic concerns both have a chance, but Jones who will be 5th year and sat out a year previously seems to have a more clear cut case.
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