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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 2, 2016 15:49:08 GMT -6
I think three years is reasonable for turning a team around but I am ok with four. My fear is that every ones expectations are so low that we will fall into the trap of a team that improves by a few wins each year and then levels off. Next thing you know its been 8 years of being just good enough for a coach to keep his job but not good enough to ever really compete for anything. So we end up wasting another four years and next thing you know its been a quarter century since we have even sniffed a championship. If a coach cant get you to the top or near contention of your conference in four years you might as well cut the cord early
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 16:10:52 GMT -6
It will be an interesting off season. I can guarantee Whitford and his agent will be pushing for a contract extension.
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Post by thebsukid on Feb 2, 2016 16:35:33 GMT -6
We will be the breakthrough team in the MAC next year led by a strong PG!!
We will next year play in the NIT at minimum and possibly the NCAA's!!
There...that should get a few people extreme!!!
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 2, 2016 20:32:39 GMT -6
I think three years is reasonable for turning a team around but I am ok with four. My fear is that every ones expectations are so low that we will fall into the trap of a team that improves by a few wins each year and then levels off. Next thing you know its been 8 years of being just good enough for a coach to keep his job but not good enough to ever really compete for anything. So we end up wasting another four years and next thing you know its been a quarter century since we have even sniffed a championship. If a coach cant get you to the top or near contention of your conference in four years you might as well cut the cord early Four years is reasonable to assess a coach. You do make an interesting argument to fire early since you are worried about our aspirations, and suggest we should jump the gun because you fear we screw up and extend. You fear not quite enough winning and say it's better to gamble on a new hire than risk a mistake on extension. OK, that is not totally unfounded since last time we did extend and then also did play out the contract with the last coach. But. First, I think we will be happy with this coach. We may want to extend him for good reasons. Even we are not happy I am not too worried about your concern, anyway. Not exactly. I am worried about money and far more afraid of losing a good coach after 4, and not getting it right a on the replacement on what we pay. Will to win is not our problem, will to prepare to win is, being blunt, to pay to win. We have not paid our coaches at the top of the MAC and you generally get what you pay for. More important now than it was 10 or 15 years ago with the salary increases in coaching. Being financially strapped was a significant factor in the last extension. This coach was paid a little better to start, although we did not pay top dollar. so, if we do have a valid fear of a bad decision extending we are very unlikely to solve the problem with your solution. We won't have the money to hire a winner if we have to pay two coaches for two years...
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 2, 2016 20:48:12 GMT -6
It will be an interesting off season. I can guarantee Whitford and his agent will be pushing for a contract extension. Good agent! Probably. He isn't paid all that well. So a raise is definitely good for him (and the agent). If he is successful in the 4th (or 5th in an extension) year, as I think he likely will be, it probably would not hurt him. He'll move on anyway, and probably be able to get his new AD to pay for the buyout. If he is less successful, obviously it is good for him. There is some risk he takes though, that the extension and buyout required would create problems and price him out of a better job. Extensions aren't always good for a successful coach. The recently fired Bradley coach who came from success in the MAC had quite a hassle with his buyout after an extension.
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Post by sweep on Feb 16, 2019 12:43:31 GMT -6
Same shit three years later.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 16, 2019 13:21:26 GMT -6
Same shit three years later. You see kids prediction in that thread? Ncaa or NIT. 😅
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Post by bsu0 on Feb 16, 2019 16:18:57 GMT -6
If ANYONE would give Whit a wiff of an extension they should be reduced to custodial duties at best.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 16, 2019 16:22:58 GMT -6
I think three years is reasonable for turning a team around but I am ok with four. My fear is that every ones expectations are so low that we will fall into the trap of a team that improves by a few wins each year and then levels off. Next thing you know its been 8 years of being just good enough for a coach to keep his job but not good enough to ever really compete for anything. So we end up wasting another four years and next thing you know its been a quarter century since we have even sniffed a championship. If a coach cant get you to the top or near contention of your conference in four years you might as well cut the cord early I do not often qoute myself but when I do
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Post by sweep on Feb 16, 2019 17:00:49 GMT -6
The thing is isn't so much the wins or loses, it's how we play most of the time. We just look bad.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 16, 2019 17:13:00 GMT -6
The thing is isn't so much the wins or loses, it's how we play most of the time. We just look bad. We seem to float in and out of caring or focus or something. And we can’t shoot worth a damn. Good thing akron couldn’t either. Fundamentals, meh. 🤷♂️
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