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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2024 12:54:45 GMT -6
My opinion is he's frustrated that it's all out in the open now and has diminished his competitive advantage... A lot of people who retire at 72 retire because they are...72. Also he felt like other schools were using the possibility of his retirement against him in recruiting. Recruiting has always been a soul-draining pain in the ass for college coaches, NIL or no NIL, portal or no portal. In my opinion, it's the main reason why you see previously winning coaches start failing. They just can't bring themselves to put in the same effort into recruiting any more. They fool themselves into thinking they can keep winning just through their general wonderfulness...and of course they can't. Add to the hell of recruiting unrealistic HS kids and parents the portal...You now have to deal with the NIL collective who may hold your fate depending on whether they will pony up to meet competing "bids." Yeah sure, NIL isn't supposed to be on the table during recruiting and is separate not under your control...sure seems the players in a manner of a few weeks figure out where the most money is. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 17, 2024 13:37:21 GMT -6
I'm sure dealing with NIL and the portal is challenging, but I don't see that it is really any more time and trouble than before. It always took a lot of time and travel to "show the love" that recruits expected. Then there is the fundament reality of the situation that you have to appeal to and kiss up to a bunch of teenage boys, who have the usual teenage boy immaturity except maybe worse because you are dealing with a subset that has been pampered and praised for as long as they can remember. And high level recruiters WERE dealing with payments before, but laundered through the shoe companies - I would think that might have been MORE stressful than the above-the-table NIL payments.
I think a lot of the complaints you hear from coaches is because the new system is DIFFERENT rather than actual harder. They had established certain habits and methods that are no longer useful, or AS useful.
Of course, I've never recruited a day in my life....I'm just speculating.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2024 13:47:58 GMT -6
I'm sure dealing with NIL and the portal is challenging, but I don't see that it is really any more time and trouble than before. It always took a lot of time and travel to "show the love" that recruits expected. Then there is the fundament reality of the situation that you have to appeal to and kiss up to a bunch of teenage boys, who have the usual teenage boy immaturity except maybe worse because you are dealing with a subset that has been pampered and praised for as long as they can remember. And high level recruiters WERE dealing with payments before, but laundered through the shoe companies - I would think that might have been MORE stressful than the above-the-table NIL payments. I think a lot of the complaints you hear from coaches is because the new system is DIFFERENT rather than actual harder. They had established certain habits and methods that are no longer useful, or AS useful. Of course, I've never recruited a day in my life....I'm just speculating. The portal has an additional element. It all hits the fan in a matter of weeks. Can't recruit and get to know players over time.
You know more about performance from reliable stats, and can quickly enough find video, but it takes more time than you have to assess personality, character, or compatibility. That information may be out there, may not, but you are juggling literally hundreds of players information in a few weeks time to make decisions.
The JUCO recruit case is a little better on the second count, you can scout and learn about a player and have more contact over the season at least. The portal for D1 transfers is much more volatile and last minute. |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 17, 2024 14:28:37 GMT -6
Assuming everyone else is similarly disadvantaged (and they are) I would rather juggle info on hundreds of players in a short time than spend my entire off-season going from gym to gym watching AAU or whatever.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2024 15:39:01 GMT -6
Assuming everyone else is similarly disadvantaged (and they are) I would rather juggle info on hundreds of players in a short time than spend my entire off-season going from gym to gym watching AAU or whatever. Personal preference aside your success depends on both, now. There's no off season recruiting. |
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Post by cardsfb1 on Jan 18, 2024 6:18:23 GMT -6
A lot of people who retire at 72 retire because they are...72. Also he felt like other schools were using the possibility of his retirement against him in recruiting. Recruiting has always been a soul-draining pain in the ass for college coaches, NIL or no NIL, portal or no portal. In my opinion, it's the main reason why you see previously winning coaches start failing. They just can't bring themselves to put in the same effort into recruiting any more. They fool themselves into thinking they can keep winning just through their general wonderfulness...and of course they can't. I'm sure all that is a big reason why Harbaugh is interviewing for NFL jobs again. He's got his ring, why fiddle with all the college bullshit anymore? I agree - recruiting has to be the WORST part of being a CFB Head Coach. NIL and transfer portal has made CFB impossible to manage a staff and roster. |
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Post by coastalcard on Jan 18, 2024 7:31:15 GMT -6
I would assume a coaching staff’s Portal, NIL, recruiting meetings FAR exceed the number of meetings on game strategery
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Post by cardfan on Jan 18, 2024 7:35:36 GMT -6
I would assume a coaching staff’s Portal, NIL, recruiting meetings FAR exceed the number of meetings on game strategery Well, you can tell our staff hasn't put enough time into game strategery...... |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 18, 2024 7:39:48 GMT -6
I would assume a coaching staff’s Portal, NIL, recruiting meetings FAR exceed the number of meetings on game strategery Well, you can tell our staff hasn't put enough time into game strategery...... Rob said it somewhere else. Not many buttons to push with limited bench. Hard to say our strategy is either the secret or the fault for results. |
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Post by cardfan on Jan 18, 2024 8:29:22 GMT -6
Well, you can tell our staff hasn't put enough time into game strategery...... Rob said it somewhere else. Not many buttons to push with limited bench. Hard to say our strategy is either the secret or the fault for results. well, we were talking football for the most part. As far as basketball, yes, Lewis has a limited bench. That's where he's gotta really address in recruiting is bringing in enough guys he can trust to put on the floor. So far we aren't seeing that. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 18, 2024 10:16:13 GMT -6
FB strategy?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 18, 2024 15:21:13 GMT -6
Football strategy? We have guys, We have had guys, Talent level is as good as anyone in MAC. We could gave one 6 games calling two plays. Do better coaching, putting kids in right spots, Calling the right plays, just not shooting ourselves |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 18, 2024 17:17:54 GMT -6
Football strategy? We have guys, We have had guys, Talent level is as good as anyone in MAC. We could gave one 6 games calling two plays. Do better coaching, putting kids in right spots, Calling the right plays, just not shooting ourselves Sounds worth trying doesn't it. |
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Post by comet on Jan 19, 2024 7:18:21 GMT -6
Football strategy? We have guys, We have had guys, Talent level is as good as anyone in MAC. We could gave one 6 games calling two plays. Do better coaching, putting kids in right spots, Calling the right plays, just not shooting ourselves Sounds worth trying doesn't it. I would have thought that someone would have thought of this by now !!!!!!!!! |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 19, 2024 8:36:06 GMT -6
Football strategy? We have guys, We have had guys, Talent level is as good as anyone in MAC. We could gave one 6 games calling two plays. Do better coaching, putting kids in right spots, Calling the right plays, just not shooting ourselves Play calling and getting players to perform might be execution, maybe that's tactics rather than strategy. A decent strategy gone wrong. Not picking a scheme that allows players to perform better, or just be more entertaining is strategy though. Our strategy seems to be ball control, no risk, and if it's that we can't execute it could be that part about not having players to play that way. Choosing 3 yards and a cloud of dust, when we do have players who could do something different and do it well, is in that case a strategic error... It ain't pretty whichever it is. |
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