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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 17:06:51 GMT -6
Well, scrap that "no look" tactic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 17:08:46 GMT -6
Lost to a 17-7 Butler squad. They are 4-1 vs. Ohio (11-11) this season. In the off-season, Butler hired Dave Schrage. He's been a head coach for about 30 years. Used to be HC at NIU, Notre Dame and Evansville. His staff crossed paths with him in Evansville. Decent coach, and much better than their last one. Amazing what a successful team in a revenue sport can do for your other teams......🤔
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 19:23:25 GMT -6
Lost to a 17-7 Butler squad. They are 4-1 vs. Ohio (11-11) this season. In the off-season, Butler hired Dave Schrage. He's been a head coach for about 30 years. Used to be HC at NIU, Notre Dame and Evansville. His staff crossed paths with him in Evansville. Decent coach, and much better than their last one. Amazing what a successful team in a revenue sport can do for your other teams......🤔 Hmmm... That's a presumption. If that were really true, Butler baseball would not be playing on a high school grade field, and probably would've hired a better coach. Like I said, Schrage is decent, but not a good coach, but he is better than the last guy.
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Post by redbirdman on Mar 29, 2017 12:38:50 GMT -6
What changed? We looked good on the road & until the Purdue game thought our pitching was decent. Now I am trying to figure out what we have. Losing to Butler at home was a shock.
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Post by Chi-town northsider on Mar 30, 2017 3:58:29 GMT -6
I don't think anything changed. I think Coach is trying to get the lineup right. Problem is no ones staying hot. If he had the last game to do over Kennedy would've batted 2nd instead of 5th. The team is really close, but they are making some mistakes that have cost them. Diving for a ball with the bases loaded and getting thrown out at 3rd for the third out are not real smart,BUT they are hustling mistakes. The guys are trying a little to hard to make something happen. One big offensive inning this weekend will get them going,imo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 4:30:03 GMT -6
I don't think anything changed. I think Coach is trying to get the lineup right. Problem is no ones staying hot. If he had the last game to do over Kennedy would've batted 2nd instead of 5th. The team is really close, but they are making some mistakes that have cost them. Diving for a ball with the bases loaded and getting thrown out at 3rd for the third out are not real smart,BUT they are hustling mistakes. The guys are trying a little to hard to make something happen. One big offensive inning this weekend will get them going,imo. Against Butler, they gave up the "big inning", 5 runs in the 3rd inning. The inning included a HBP, two singles, a BB, then a triple created five runs. Wipe that inning out and its a 3-2 game. Ball State stranded 12 on base on 8 hits during the game. Butler stranded 4 on 7 hits. In the Purdue game, BSU could only muster 6 hits (scored 4 runs). Game 1 vs. Kent was a close game, and could've gone either way. There were a couple of baserunning mistakes and 4 errors cost the game. Game 2 vs. Kent, we stranded 9 on 8 hits and could only score 3. Game 3, BSU stranded 5 on 6 hits, and only scored 4. Kent scored 9 on 20 hits, stranded 14, but they were consistently scoring throughout the game. Bottomline, out of the past 5 games, BSU bats haven't existed in two of the games. One big inning (pitching) cost BSU the Butler game. Pitching (hits, walks, HBPs, a balk) and errors costs us the Purdue game. Errors cost us one Kent game, pitching and lack of hits cost us another, and the third game Kent won outright. Vs. Kent, pitching did not give up many BBs or HBPs. So far this year, we have had 9 runners picked off base (opponents had 3). BSU has thrown 29 wild pitches (opponents 14), allowed 9 passed balls (opponents 2), balked 3 times (opponents 5), hit 24 batters (opponents 25), walked 107 batters (opponents 91) in 218 innings. We walk or hit a batter every 5 outs. Ball State is hitting .238 vs. opponents .252.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 6:03:03 GMT -6
I noticed Stayton is back, but he's missed some game speed pitching. Need to get things together to be ready for MAC tournament.
not to be negative but, during the games I saw, there were several pick offs and base running issues. Is the first base coach new? I know a guy left and was replaced.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 11:20:01 GMT -6
I noticed Stayton is back, but he's missed some game speed pitching. Need to get things together to be ready for MAC tournament. not to be negative but, during the games I saw, there were several pick offs and base running issues. Is the first base coach new? I know a guy left and was replaced. No. Same 1B coach for about the past 4-5 years.
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Post by Chi-town northsider on Mar 30, 2017 22:54:29 GMT -6
I don't think anything changed. I think Coach is trying to get the lineup right. Problem is no ones staying hot. If he had the last game to do over Kennedy would've batted 2nd instead of 5th. The team is really close, but they are making some mistakes that have cost them. Diving for a ball with the bases loaded and getting thrown out at 3rd for the third out are not real smart,BUT they are hustling mistakes. The guys are trying a little to hard to make something happen. One big offensive inning this weekend will get them going,imo. Against Butler, they gave up the "big inning", 5 runs in the 3rd inning. The inning included a HBP, two singles, a BB, then a triple created five runs. Wipe that inning out and its a 3-2 game. Ball State stranded 12 on base on 8 hits during the game. Butler stranded 4 on 7 hits. In the Purdue game, BSU could only muster 6 hits (scored 4 runs). Game 1 vs. Kent was a close game, and could've gone either way. There were a couple of baserunning mistakes and 4 errors cost the game. Game 2 vs. Kent, we stranded 9 on 8 hits and could only score 3. Game 3, BSU stranded 5 on 6 hits, and only scored 4. Kent scored 9 on 20 hits, stranded 14, but they were consistently scoring throughout the game. Bottomline, out of the past 5 games, BSU bats haven't existed in two of the games. One big inning (pitching) cost BSU the Butler game. Pitching (hits, walks, HBPs, a balk) and errors costs us the Purdue game. Errors cost us one Kent game, pitching and lack of hits cost us another, and the third game Kent won outright. Vs. Kent, pitching did not give up many BBs or HBPs. So far this year, we have had 9 runners picked off base (opponents had 3). BSU has thrown 29 wild pitches (opponents 14), allowed 9 passed balls (opponents 2), balked 3 times (opponents 5), hit 24 batters (opponents 25), walked 107 batters (opponents 91) in 218 innings. We walk or hit a batter every 5 outs. Ball State is hitting .238 vs. opponents .252.
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Post by Chi-town northsider on Mar 30, 2017 23:14:14 GMT -6
That triple in the Butler game was not caused by the pitcher. I'm not trying to hang our CF'er. but he shouldn't have dove for that ball. He keeps it in front of him and they only score one run, instead of three. He was trying to make something happened and it backfired. Can't get mad at him for hustling. Right now our guys seem to be hitting everything at the other team. Won't argue the pitching hasn't kept up during this bad steak. Butler has been lights out and Brockhouse was doing great before the injury. I believe Marquardt is better suited for starting. One more thing, if that ball Eppers hit last Friday would have gotten thru, we wouldn't be panicking quite as much.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 7:55:57 GMT -6
That triple in the Butler game was not caused by the pitcher. I'm not trying to hang our CF'er. but he shouldn't have dove for that ball. He keeps it in front of him and they only score one run, instead of three. He was trying to make something happened and it backfired. Can't get mad at him for hustling. Right now our guys seem to be hitting everything at the other team. Won't argue the pitching hasn't kept up during this bad steak. Butler has been lights out and Brockhouse was doing great before the injury. I believe Marquardt is better suited for starting. One more thing, if that ball Eppers hit last Friday would have gotten thru, we wouldn't be panicking quite as much. True. With bases loaded, you keep the ball in front of you. I always taught my outfielders to dive for fly balls that are more vertical (pop fly), than horizontal (line drives), and to always know where you other outfielders are to gauge whether someone has you backed up. Playing on turf also makes laying out for horizontal balls tough, because you make a mistake, and the ball is not going to slow down much. While we are hitting .238, our SO average is .254 and our BB/HBP average is .144. OBP is .331. Our opponents are hitting .252, their SO average is .255 and their BB/HBP avg. is .158. OBP is .352. While our outs may be hit hard at folks, we may need to be a bit more patient. Our battery has given up 36 total wild pitches/passed balls, to our opponents 16. We are allowing base runners free passes to advance too often.
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Post by cardfan on Mar 31, 2017 8:18:31 GMT -6
Basically it comes down to this team not being fundamentally sound, not being smart enough, and the battery not being able to do it's job.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 1, 2017 12:27:18 GMT -6
Another L today.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 1, 2017 15:04:34 GMT -6
And losing game number 2. All it takes is one big inning and they are toast because they are unable to score runs
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 15:46:10 GMT -6
3-12 since getting on a plane ✈️ to Oregon.
Nothing to worry about. Just a rough patch. Like always, the Cards will get it together and end up divisional champions. Nothing like being recognized as a MAC divisional champion....that's all we have left to celebrate anymore.
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