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Post by chirpchirpcards on Jan 17, 2019 19:41:30 GMT -6
Mr Melvin Adam Kiper Jr. has the Colts selecting Clemson DT Dexter Lawrence at #26:
26. Indianapolis Colts Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson
Lawrence is higher on my Big Board -- No. 17 -- but he won't fit every NFL team. At 6-foot-5, 340 pounds, he's the top nose tackle in this class, so he needs to find a team looking for a plugger in the middle. With Margus Hunt -- who had a stellar 2018 -- a free agent, the Colts could have a need along the interior of the line. Lawrence can disrupt a pocket and hold up against the run, but he's never going to be an elite penetrator like Quinnen Williams.
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Jan 21, 2019 18:24:57 GMT -6
CBSSports Mock Draft has us taking:
26. Indianapolis Colts N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State. A new-and-improved Andrew Luck, an offensive line that allowed just 18 sacks during the regular season, and now another downfield playmaker to pair with T.Y. Hilton and Eric Ebron. Harry had 73 receptions for 1,088 yards and nine touchdowns last season, and he reminds us of JuJu Smith-Schuster and Anquan Boldin.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 1, 2019 8:36:12 GMT -6
I can't remember for sure, but I may have mentioned that I did not agree with the Colts using the #6 overall pick on a guard. Be that as it may, I was impressed by this interview with Quinton Nelson. Very mature and level-headed and able to express coherent concepts. Seems like you get that a lot more with offensive linemen....and quarterbacks and kickers. But let's not go too far down that path of noticing things, and put ourselves in danger of thoughtcrime.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 3, 2019 21:03:07 GMT -6
Colts need to draft Kent's QB...whoever he is...to pair with Hilton
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Post by cardfan on Feb 3, 2019 21:10:42 GMT -6
How bad was Goff? 🤮
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 3, 2019 21:19:49 GMT -6
Rams impressive on D. Should have been enough to win.
Speaking of drafts, Edelman a 7th round pick.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 20, 2019 13:59:25 GMT -6
Wonder how many of the NFL people who are singing Nelson's praises would pull the trigger on a trade to let go of Calvin Ridley AND another mid-1st round pick for Nelson? My guess: zero.
Many stats here, and many still convinced it all worked out well:
"The rookie mauler has received a cavalcade of recognition and postseason awards, this one being of pretty high praise. Nelson finished the season graded as the No. 1 rookie offensive lineman (74.3), and was the third-ranked guard (and top-ranked left guard) (76.7) in all of the league when considering both the regular and postseason. If you're a GM and take an interior offensive lineman in the top 10 of the draft, this is the kind of return you're praying for."
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 20, 2019 16:00:23 GMT -6
Ridley and another first rounder together are like an order of magnitude more valuable than any OG that ever lived. But you never see that comparison made in the media.
I don't think people understand how much more the #6 pick is worth compared to a lower half 1st round pick....more than double. Much more draft capital was spent on Nelson compared to these other OG's he's being compared to. MUCH, MUCH more. He had certainly BETTER be rated above them. That's a minimum requirement for the pick not to be an utter disaster.
But the difference between Nelson and the OG alternative in game effect is small compared to the difference between Ridley and the Colts "number 2"WR"....whoever that might be. That doesn't even factor in the additional first rounder (or multiple 2nd rounders) that could have be acquired along with Ridley.
Get back with me when somebody in the media addresses THIS comparison. I'm not especially impressed that Nelson is rated higher than a bunch of OG's picked up with little to no draft capital.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 21, 2019 19:44:22 GMT -6
I hope the Colts take a serious look at Antonio Brown. Obviously it would be a move with some risks, but the upside is humongous. Imagine Hilton and Brown lining up on either side of Luck. The upside is that the Colts go immediately to the very short list (like maybe three teams) as the super bowl favorite. That's worth a certain amount of risk, you know. Luck is no longer that young anymore. Windows close and then you can sometimes be looking at 20+ years with zero super bowl hopes. That's a pretty serious risk in itself.
Of course I would want Reich and/or Ballard to interview Brown and get a feel for his mindset. Maybe also Luck? ( they could speak to him in the following order: first Ballard, second Luck and Third Reich) But you don't need Brown to be a team leader and NFL Man of the Year....you simply need him to STFU and do his business. He might do that.
Think back to Randy Moss at Oakland in 2006. 553 yards and 3 TD's. He was widely regarded as a total locker room cancer. He was starting to accumulate some injury issues. And he was saying things like "Maybe because I'm unhappy and I'm not too much excited about what's going on, so, my concentration and focus level tend to go down sometimes when I'm in a bad mood" Who wants whiney babies that say things like that to the media?
Well, as it turns out, Bill Belichick wanted him. It only took a 4th round pick to out bid the rest of the league...that's the best measure of Moss's reputation at the time. In 2007 Moss had 1493 yards and 23 TD's and was utterly uncoverable.
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Feb 21, 2019 19:54:18 GMT -6
I hope the Colts take a serious look at Antonio Brown. Obviously it would be a move with some risks, but the upside is humongous. Imagine Hilton and Brown lining up on either side of Luck. The upside is that the Colts go immediately to the very short list (like maybe three teams) as the super bowl favorite. That's worth a certain amount of risk, you know. Luck is no longer that young anymore. Windows close and then you can sometimes be looking at 20+ years with zero super bowl hopes. That's a pretty serious risk in itself. Of course I would want Reich and/or Ballard to interview Brown and get a feel for his mindset. Maybe also Luck? ( they could speak to him in the following order: first Ballard, second Luck and Third Reich) But you don't need Brown to be a team leader and NFL Man of the Year....you simply need him to STFU and do his business. He might do that. Think back to Randy Moss at Oakland in 2006. 553 yards and 3 TD's. He was widely regarded as a total locker room cancer. He was starting to accumulate some injury issues. And he was saying things like " Maybe because I'm unhappy and I'm not too much excited about what's going on, so, my concentration and focus level tend to go down sometimes when I'm in a bad mood" Who wants whiney babies that say things like that to the media? Well, as it turns out, Bill Belichick wanted him. It only took a 4th round pick to out bid the rest of the league...that's the best measure of Moss's reputation at the time. In 2007 Moss had 1493 yards and 23 TD's and was utterly uncoverable. I would say the difference here is the difference between the Raiders and the Steelers as an organization. The Steelers just showed they were willing to let a player sit for an entire season rather than give into demands. They have Brown under contract for two more seasons with an option for the 2021 season. I think if you don't see a trade before March 17th, when Brown is owed a roster bonus, then I think it's unlikely you'll see the Steelers move him.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 21, 2019 19:55:50 GMT -6
A reengaged brown could be amazing. But yeah you gotta gauge his mindset. Pittsburgh isn’t gonna just give him away so if the colts want him they have to be prepared to have a little pain. Ballard has been reluctant to deal that way.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 21, 2019 20:29:29 GMT -6
I don't follow the situation closely enough to really judge how likely the Steelers are to deal. But I've seen it said that Brown can be had for a 2nd round pick. the Colts have two of those.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 21, 2019 21:05:41 GMT -6
A reengaged brown could be amazing. But yeah you gotta gauge his mindset. Pittsburgh isn’t gonna just give him away so if the colts want him they have to be prepared to have a little pain. Ballard has been reluctant to deal that way. Brown can't STFU and do his job. His nature. A team this early in rebuild, he could wreck the locker room. Ballard has gambled in the past, worth talking to him, but I'd be happier if he was the last piece needed for a SB run. I don't see that.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 21, 2019 21:09:42 GMT -6
I don't follow the situation closely enough to really judge how likely the Steelers are to deal. But I've seen it said that Brown can be had for a 2nd round pick. the Colts have two of those. They would want the one which is a very high one, almost a 1st. But the risk is more his salary and his corrosive "me" on a team that is remarkably good in the team department. But young and maybe a bit fragile, needs solid veterans not a diva.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 21, 2019 21:18:20 GMT -6
Well since you seem to be close to the Steeler's organization and know exactly what they would want in a trade....I'll have to defer to you on that one.
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