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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 6:02:17 GMT -6
We be 1 point dogs to the cats tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 6:16:45 GMT -6
We be 1 point dogs to the cats tonight. Confirmation the Notre Dame win is now viewed as a fluke by Las Vegas.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 9, 2018 7:37:21 GMT -6
We be 1 point dogs to the cats tonight. Confirmation the Notre Dame win is now viewed as a fluke by Las Vegas. More it might be confirmation that we're in a funk, but also considering it is a tough road game in conference, it says we are a little stronger than Ohio, nothing new there. The Vegas line is of course dependent on betting interest. But it also often includes very recent information not factored into power ratings, much less RPI.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 8:07:10 GMT -6
Confirmation the Notre Dame win is now viewed as a fluke by Las Vegas. More it might be confirmation that we're in a funk, but also considering it is a tough road game in conference, it says we are a little stronger than Ohio, nothing new there. The Vegas line is of course dependent on betting interest. But it also often includes very recent information not factored into power ratings, much less RPI. Even being at Ohio we should be a 3-4 point favorite, although losing Walker will drop our power ranking to some degree. We have won eight of our last nine so there is no confirmed trend we are in a "funk". When you really look at it, this is an important game. Win and we are back on track, lose and it might point to another downward spiral.
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Post by reevo on Jan 9, 2018 10:59:09 GMT -6
If we are ever going to win in Athens, this is our opportunity. Ohio is down and we need to make a statement that Saturday was an anomaly. We are the better ball club so we need to come ready to play tonight.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 9, 2018 11:10:11 GMT -6
More it might be confirmation that we're in a funk, but also considering it is a tough road game in conference, it says we are a little stronger than Ohio, nothing new there. The Vegas line is of course dependent on betting interest. But it also often includes very recent information not factored into power ratings, much less RPI. Even being at Ohio we should be a 3-4 point favorite, although losing Walker will drop our power ranking to some degree. We have won eight of our last nine so there is no confirmed trend we are in a "funk". When you really look at it, this is an important game. Win and we are back on track, lose and it might point to another downward spiral. Should? Why? Sagarin has them overall at 72 and change, we are at 73 and change. Recent results they are 75+ , we are 76+. Our best "recent" rating, which is a relatively short time span before, was around 80+ and our high water overall rating never that high. With the UB game bringing us down along with other recent results. It may be that ND has fallen slightly and the contribution of our win there is very slightly decreased by that, but mostly it's we have not played as well the last few games. UB result is a little exaggerated, I think we are much closer to them than a 20 point margin. Sagarin methodology recognizes that, but the actual scores do count... With home court, they should perhaps be a slight favorite. If we get back to our "B" level game we should have good chances.
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Post by frozenbaugh on Jan 9, 2018 11:20:47 GMT -6
Confirmation the Notre Dame win is now viewed as a fluke by Las Vegas. More it might be confirmation that we're in a funk, but also considering it is a tough road game in conference, it says we are a little stronger than Ohio, nothing new there. The Vegas line is of course dependent on betting interest. But it also often includes very recent information not factored into power ratings, much less RPI. 1 game is a funk? What is 2 games considered?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 11:30:09 GMT -6
Even being at Ohio we should be a 3-4 point favorite, although losing Walker will drop our power ranking to some degree. We have won eight of our last nine so there is no confirmed trend we are in a "funk". When you really look at it, this is an important game. Win and we are back on track, lose and it might point to another downward spiral. Sagarin has them overall at 72 and change, we are at 73 and change. Yeah and KenPom, which was your favorite has them at 171. For Christ's Sake Sagarin has these guys ranked at # 62 ahead of Kentucky, Florida and North Carolina. Way to cherry pick garbage to try and support a goofy point.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 9, 2018 11:34:43 GMT -6
More it might be confirmation that we're in a funk, but also considering it is a tough road game in conference, it says we are a little stronger than Ohio, nothing new there. The Vegas line is of course dependent on betting interest. But it also often includes very recent information not factored into power ratings, much less RPI. 1 game is a funk? What is 2 games considered? typical tailspin
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Post by reds37 on Jan 9, 2018 16:09:22 GMT -6
1 game is a funk? What is 2 games considered? typical tailspin Dumpster Fire
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 9, 2018 17:38:10 GMT -6
If your into trends here is one
Francis Kiapway is averaging 14.5 points on 60 percent 3-point shooting (15 for 25) over his career versus Ohio.
Lets hope this one continues
Ok going to try and go off the grid until I can watch the replay of the game tonight. You kids have fun live posting and I will be back for the aftermath
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 9, 2018 17:57:35 GMT -6
another quick one before I bow out
UB on Saturday. Cards have lost 8 straight vs. Bobcats. They'll be a motivated group. Last OU loss vs BSU? 76-73, MAC Tourney, 2011.
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 9, 2018 17:59:16 GMT -6
Sagarin has them overall at 72 and change, we are at 73 and change. Yeah and KenPom, which was your favorite has them at 171. For Christ's Sake Sagarin has these guys ranked at # 62 ahead of Kentucky, Florida and North Carolina. Way to cherry pick garbage to try and support a goofy point. What are you talking about? ? This time you are being very hasty and downright sloppy. Don't be dense. If you just check the facts and look at Sagarin you will see I was giving power rating of the two teams in this game NOT rank. That difference in power rating determines the likely margin of victory after factoring home court. You clearly just don't understand power ratings. Rank is totally different, does not predict games well, except on neutral courts. And Sagarin ranks neither team here at #62, Ohio and BSU both ranked around 150. Pomeroy which is very good ranks BSU about the same, Ohio a little lower. But, if you look at the Pomeroy power ranking, it ranks us maybe 2.5 points higher in margin on neutral court, but home court would mean they are a favorite. Take a minute before saying something unclear, almost incoherent, and unless you can explain, just wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 18:04:32 GMT -6
Yeah and KenPom, which was your favorite has them at 171. For Christ's Sake Sagarin has these guys ranked at # 62 ahead of Kentucky, Florida and North Carolina. Way to cherry pick garbage to try and support a goofy point. What are you talking about? ? This time you are being very hasty and downright sloppy. Don't be dense. If you just check the facts and look at Sagarin you will see I was giving power rating of the two teams in this game NOT rank. That difference in power rating determines the likely margin of victory after factoring home court. You clearly just don't understand power ratings. Rank is totally different, does not predict games well, except on neutral courts. And Sagarin ranks neither team here at #62, Ohio and BSU both ranked around 150. Pomeroy which is very good ranks BSU about the same, Ohio a little lower. But, if you look at the Pomeroy power ranking, it ranks us maybe 2.5 points higher in margin on neutral court, but home court would mean they are a favorite. Take a minute before saying something unclear, almost incoherent, and unless you can explain, just wrong. Yeah and clearly Sagarin has Ohio way over ranked. Nice job missing the entire point.
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Post by DickHunsaker on Jan 9, 2018 18:05:06 GMT -6
You know as I watch broadcasts from other schools, I realize how GOOD our broadcasts are.
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