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Post by lmills72 on Nov 22, 2018 8:24:01 GMT -6
I know that nobody on this board likes him, but I honestly think that Neal gives us a better shot at winning than Plitt. That’s just my personal opinion. That said, I’m hopeful that Paddock surpasses both guys and becomes our starter next year. Plitt is a great backup QB! Respectfully, just curious what's formed your opinion. Sometimes opinions are just feelings and sometimes they're formed through evaluation and data. What's led you to that opinion? My other question, in general, is this: If we now have a true QB competition between Neal, Plitt, Paddock and the freshman ... and Neal loses that competition to any of the other 3 ... how does he react? How will that affect the lockerroom? If Plitt loses, he's been in the back-up role before. I assume he would accept that without ruffling feathers. But would Riley, as a fifth-year senior who's started since he was a freshman, suffer that demotion as well?
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Nov 22, 2018 9:12:45 GMT -6
I know that nobody on this board likes him, but I honestly think that Neal gives us a better shot at winning than Plitt. That’s just my personal opinion. That said, I’m hopeful that Paddock surpasses both guys and becomes our starter next year. Plitt is a great backup QB! Respectfully, just curious what's formed your opinion. Sometimes opinions are just feelings and sometimes they're formed through evaluation and data. What's led you to that opinion? My other question, in general, is this: If we now have a true QB competition between Neal, Plitt, Paddock and the freshman ... and Neal loses that competition to any of the other 3 ... how does he react? How will that affect the lockerroom? If Plitt loses, he's been in the back-up role before. I assume he would accept that without ruffling feathers. But would Riley, as a fifth-year senior who's started since he was a freshman, suffer that demotion as well? I look forward to the competition. If Neal were to lose out (I don’t think it will happen) I suspect he would handle it properly and not be a locker room issue.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 22, 2018 9:51:24 GMT -6
Also at question is how the lockerroom handles whatever decision is made, whether the QBs make an issue of it or not?
We've already seen cracks in player confidence in the staff regarding the offense. Maybe those get taken care of in the off-season with a few departures or attitude adjustments. But maybe they're still lingering under the surface next fall.
I wonder if there's a consensus among the players as to which of our top 3 QBs offers the best chance to win. And if there is, what will happen if the coaching staff doesn't agree.
Of course, winning will trump all, but if there's a divide and things don't go well early, there's a recipe for a fractured team.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 22, 2018 9:52:53 GMT -6
I think the better question is if Rileys wins how does the rest of the team react? Riley and PLitt will be fine either way. You can tell the the younger guys really like plitt. They want something different and that is PLitt or maybe Paddock. Like I said I do not dislike Riley at all. I want him to succeed so badly but he just has not. Its going to be a fun spring though
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 22, 2018 9:53:51 GMT -6
Also at question is how the lockerroom handles whatever decision is made, whether the QBs make an issue of it or not? We've already seen cracks in player confidence in the staff regarding the offense. Maybe those get taken care of in the off-season with a few departures or attitude adjustments. But maybe they're still lingering under the surface next fall. I wonder if there's a consensus among the players as to which of our top 3 QBs offers the best chance to win. And if there is, what will happen if the coaching staff doesn't agree. Of course, winning will trump all, but if there's a divide and things don't go well early, there's a recipe for a fractured team. Damn Mills we are thinking the same way a lot these days
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 22, 2018 10:37:23 GMT -6
Sorry Riley but if Plitt has a short memory and is confident in his ability I have to lean toward Plitt. You can't be short on confidence and be a successful QB.
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Post by bsutony on Nov 22, 2018 10:59:50 GMT -6
Sorry Riley but if Plitt has a short memory and is confident in his ability I have to lean toward Plitt. You can't be short on confidence and be a successful QB. You can have a short memory, but a 6-8 TD to Int ratio won’t cut it.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 22, 2018 11:52:05 GMT -6
Also at question is how the lockerroom handles whatever decision is made, whether the QBs make an issue of it or not? We've already seen cracks in player confidence in the staff regarding the offense. Maybe those get taken care of in the off-season with a few departures or attitude adjustments. But maybe they're still lingering under the surface next fall. I wonder if there's a consensus among the players as to which of our top 3 QBs offers the best chance to win. And if there is, what will happen if the coaching staff doesn't agree. Of course, winning will trump all, but if there's a divide and things don't go well early, there's a recipe for a fractured team. I worry about this, too. But, if our locker room remains in any kind of disarray after Spring practice, we are toast anyway. And if they are so fragile that they have to have a great start to maintain their delicate balance, we are toast anyway, too.
And if Neal was the cause of the disarray, and that any point in the future is a likely potential problem, that is a huge factor in whether he should get the nod.
If the coaches are tone deaf to this they deserve the consequences.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 22, 2018 11:57:11 GMT -6
Sorry Riley but if Plitt has a short memory and is confident in his ability I have to lean toward Plitt. You can't be short on confidence and be a successful QB. You can have a short memory, but a 6-8 TD to Int ratio won’t cut it. Amazingly, at BSU, it appears to cut it as well as an 11-4 TD-Int ratio.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 22, 2018 11:57:32 GMT -6
Also at question is how the lockerroom handles whatever decision is made, whether the QBs make an issue of it or not? We've already seen cracks in player confidence in the staff regarding the offense. Maybe those get taken care of in the off-season with a few departures or attitude adjustments. But maybe they're still lingering under the surface next fall. I wonder if there's a consensus among the players as to which of our top 3 QBs offers the best chance to win. And if there is, what will happen if the coaching staff doesn't agree. Of course, winning will trump all, but if there's a divide and things don't go well early, there's a recipe for a fractured team. Damn Mills we are thinking the same way a lot these days Count me 3, and I am sure cardfan is worried, he always is!
This is a real concern, the mental part of the equaition. If anything, this forum is quite expert about identifying things to worry about!
For those who see Plitt the only answer they want to think about, they should worry too. BSU football can wear down the most hardy of psyches. As much as he now has energy and a little swagger, this process might be enough to wear him down, we have seen players change in the past, even this year. And again, if coaches let it happen, can't prevent it, they deserve the consequences.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 22, 2018 11:58:45 GMT -6
I do not think Riley was or is causing any diarray he is an awesome guy. We all saw the difference in players reactions, attitudes and energy when PLitt was in there. You can not question that all and if you do you just did not want to see it.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 22, 2018 12:02:34 GMT -6
Mike Neu 43 td and 40 interceptions during his time here and he brought us a championship. Maybe Mike is not too concerned over TD/int
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Post by bsutony on Nov 22, 2018 12:08:28 GMT -6
You can have a short memory, but a 6-8 TD to Int ratio won’t cut it. Amazingly, at BSU, it appears to cut it as well as an 11-4 TD-Int ratio. We got one win against a team without it's starting QB. I'm not sure the results were better.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 22, 2018 12:10:46 GMT -6
Amazingly, at BSU, it appears to cut it as well as an 11-4 TD-Int ratio. We got one win against a team without it's starting QB. I'm not sure the results were better. That same team turned around and beat NIU.
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Post by bsutony on Nov 22, 2018 12:12:05 GMT -6
We got one win against a team without it's starting QB. I'm not sure the results were better. That same team turned around and beat NIU. NIU isn't anything special. We were close to beating them this year.
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