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Post by rgmillikan on Mar 25, 2019 17:47:22 GMT -6
The MAC was ''HORRIBLE'' this past season. Did you really watch ANY MAC games? Sure. Saw a lot of good teams. One great team by MAC standards. A few teams inconsistent. Some bad games. But. Almost everybody could beat most other teams, with UB a favorite every game though. I dont always side with you 00 but on the issue of the MAC as a whole i'd agree it's the best the conference has been since at least 2004-05. Not an excuse at all for BSU to go 6-12 but this yr the conference was much better than any other season this decade. Buffalo is the highest seeded MAC team since Toledo in the late 1970s.
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 25, 2019 18:20:26 GMT -6
Sure. Saw a lot of good teams. One great team by MAC standards. A few teams inconsistent. Some bad games. But. Almost everybody could beat most other teams, with UB a favorite every game though. I dont always side with you 00 but on the issue of the MAC as a whole i'd agree it's the best the conference has been since at least 2004-05. Not an excuse at all for BSU to go 6-12 but this yr the conference was much better than any other season this decade. Buffalo is the highest seeded MAC team since Toledo in the late 1970s. I just don’t see it. Buffalo was very good and after that meh. We went 1-4 in post season play. That is fact.
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Post by redbirdman on Mar 25, 2019 19:25:41 GMT -6
MAC had a good year but I don't think Buffalo is going to go down as a greatest MAC team Buffalo's best ever probably. MAC's 2nd best team to me either BG or Toledo was in top 64 in country & to me were as good as Belmont out of OVC.Toledo's team in NIT was down two players as Jacksons were both out one a starter & 2nd was 7th man. MAC will be much weaker next season especially our division.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 25, 2019 21:07:33 GMT -6
I think the Mac was pretty good overall this year. And when you're a bad team in a pretty good conference, you finish something like 11th.
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 25, 2019 21:24:05 GMT -6
Yes, Buffalo was certainly the elite of the MAC and beat an 11 seed easily and lost to a higher seed which was expected.
Frankly, I have seen Texas Tech a few times and they are everything we desire...hard nosed, fast pace, and toughness.
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 25, 2019 22:37:43 GMT -6
The problem...''One great team BY MAC STANDARDS''. The MAC is soooooooo bad it's standards are terrible.
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 26, 2019 6:19:56 GMT -6
I think the Mac was pretty good overall this year. And when you're a bad team in a pretty good conference, you finish something like 11th. Of the home games I saw (all of them) and road games (about half) there was nothing special in terms of quality, IMO. Some of the games were just brutal to watch. I’m talking neither team at 20 points at the final media TO of the half. 4-5 games fit that bill. EMU had a half where they scored 4 points. Again, Toledo CMU and Kent ALL lost their first round games in post season by 14, 14 and 10. Other than Buffalo, the league was just as mediocre as it has been. How many NBA teams will be lined up to draft or invite a single player to a camp? Maybe Perkins or Massinburg might get invited, that’s it. I trust my eyes and the MAC was NOT the strongest it’s ever been or whatever bullshit Whitford and his supporters want to sell.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2019 6:33:45 GMT -6
The problem...''One great team BY MAC STANDARDS''. The MAC is soooooooo bad it's standards are terrible. Horrible? Compared to? This is not the B10. We are a mid major conference, and this year a very good one.
There are 6 conferences that are power conferences and the Mountain West and American have some big schools with significantly better commitment to basketball. We are next after that.
A better conference than 20+ other D1 conferences. Which mid major conference is better? How much?
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Post by sweep on Mar 26, 2019 7:54:11 GMT -6
Yes, Buffalo was certainly the elite of the MAC and beat an 11 seed easily and lost to a higher seed which was expected. Frankly, I have seen Texas Tech a few times and they are everything we desire...hard nosed, fast pace, and toughness. No, a twenty point beat-down wasn't expected.
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 26, 2019 10:55:48 GMT -6
If you believe MAC basketball is better than 20 other conferences in the country this conversation is over. We will just have to agree to disagree
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 26, 2019 11:15:27 GMT -6
I saw every home game live. I traveled to 6 away games and I watched every other game. While not doing that I watched some big 10 games alot of Mr Bane and other random games. Buffalo was really good but there was a bunch of really bad basketball in there.
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 26, 2019 11:24:20 GMT -6
Sweep, what I said was they lost to a higher seated team which was expected, true or false?
And, they beat some other pretty good squads on their home court like Syracuse and West Virginia!
And, they were not expected to beat down the # 11 seed ASU either.
And, like it or not, the MAC was a pretty highly rated conference...can't just use the rankings when it suits you.
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Post by sweep on Mar 26, 2019 12:35:57 GMT -6
And, they beat some other pretty good squads on their home court like Syracuse and West Virginia! Dude, West Virginia was flat-out terrible this year (4-14 in conference) and Syracuse has an RPI slightly better than Toledo. The MAC was 3-35 vs the Top 50, I wouldn't be bragging about that.
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 26, 2019 13:59:49 GMT -6
The problem...''One great team BY MAC STANDARDS''. The MAC is soooooooo bad it's standards are terrible. Horrible? Compared to? This is not the B10. We are a mid major conference, and this year a very good one.
There are 6 conferences that are power conferences and the Mountain West and American have some big schools with significantly better commitment to basketball. We are next after that.
A better conference than 20+ other D1 conferences. Which mid major conference is better? How much?
Actually, the word he used was terrible not horrible but you've never been a stickler for quoting people accurately. Regardless, if the MAC was better than 20 other D-1 conferences then the metrics must be horseshit. If you want to take the time to analyze the "signature" wins by our league based on either name recognition, power 6 teams or highest-rated teams from other mid-majors I'd listen but using my own metric of watching our league opponents compared to previous seasons didn't demonstrate to me the MAC was anything other than one rare team and what we usually see in the league. As Calhoun noted, there were some truly horrible games I saw in January and February at Worthen. That was the norm and the caliber of athletes is equally just OK. A handful of guys who could get some minutes in the Big Ten and then everyone else.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 26, 2019 14:12:30 GMT -6
Horrible? Compared to? This is not the B10. We are a mid major conference, and this year a very good one.
Actually, the word he used was terrible not horrible but you've never been a stickler for quoting people accurately. Reality check needed here.
The MAC was ''HORRIBLE'' this past season. Did you really watch ANY MAC games?
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