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Post by 00hmh on Mar 29, 2019 14:24:45 GMT -6
hope he's right we will have more shooters. Where are the shooters suddenly going to come from ? Bumbalough is the only guy in the pipeline who can shoot at all, and he has other issues. At all?
He says in the article he expects Bumbalough, Kroft to be excellent shooters and presumes both are available. He says Acree is good. That would be true compared to the current roster, but a low bar... Article says Hendricks and Thomas can step out and hit. I would suppose they would be better than Trey and Teague.
Nobody in the class sucks, which is what we saw with KJ. And Mallers and Persons lost their touch. Only good news was Hazen and Ish who unfortunately were injured so long. Mallers seemed to be getting his shot back, but Persons was mediocre throughout the last half of the year.
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Post by reevo on Mar 29, 2019 14:32:44 GMT -6
It still does not address the rebounding, lack of low post scoring, physical strength and defending the dribble.
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Post by sweep on Mar 29, 2019 14:38:09 GMT -6
Where are the shooters suddenly going to come from ? Bumbalough is the only guy in the pipeline who can shoot at all, and he has other issues.
He says in the article he expects Bumbalough, Kroft to be excellent shooters and presumes both are available. That's my point about Whitford being a playactor, Kroft shot 32% from three this year in freaking High School and Thomas shot 15% from three at Maryland ES. You will believe anything.
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Post by CallingBS on Mar 29, 2019 14:40:27 GMT -6
Kroft reminds me a great deal of Quenton Payne is every aspect
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Post by cardfan on Mar 29, 2019 14:46:18 GMT -6
He says in the article he expects Bumbalough, Kroft to be excellent shooters and presumes both are available. That's my point about Whitford being a playactor, Kroft shot 22% from three this year in freaking High School and Thomas shot 15% from three at Maryland ES. You will believe anything. Wait, whit said Kroft was an elite shooter.
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 29, 2019 16:27:49 GMT -6
Nobody in the class sucks, which is what we saw with KJ. And Mallers and Persons lost their touch. Only good news was Hazen and Ish who unfortunately were injured so long. Mallers seemed to be getting his shot back, but Persons was mediocre throughout the last half of the year.
What caught my attention in the article were the stats that showed both Mallers and Persons had gotten worse at shooting 3-pointers over the past three years under Whitford. These were the two guys who combined accounted for 47% of all the 3-point attempts taken last season (Mallers 150, Persons 140 of 621 total attempts) and yet they had gotten worse each year under Whitford. Tayler Persons’ 3-point percentage went from 41.9 as a sophomore to 37.3 as a junior to 32.1 this past season, and Kyle Mallers went from 34.6 to 33.7 to 30 percent this past season. That just shouldn't happen, yet it did. It's like your broker got you into two $100 per share stocks that at the end of three years were worth something in the $40's. Would you continue to take investment advise from such a broker?
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 29, 2019 16:53:27 GMT -6
Kroft reminds me a great deal of Quenton Payne is every aspect In HS game I saw he was better inside than I expected, more athletic, could drive, score in traffic, and it did not seem he was used as a primary threat outside so much. Better than I expected, perhaps as good overall as Sellers was in HS, not as good shooting better off dribble. Probably a complimentary player in college, not a big time scorer but I want to see him against college players.
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 30, 2019 8:05:17 GMT -6
Nobody in the class sucks, which is what we saw with KJ. And Mallers and Persons lost their touch. Only good news was Hazen and Ish who unfortunately were injured so long. Mallers seemed to be getting his shot back, but Persons was mediocre throughout the last half of the year.
What caught my attention in the article were the stats that showed both Mallers and Persons had gotten worse at shooting 3-pointers over the past three years under Whitford. These were the two guys who combined accounted for 47% of all the 3-point attempts taken last season (Mallers 150, Persons 140 of 621 total attempts) and yet they had gotten worse each year under Whitford. Tayler Persons’ 3-point percentage went from 41.9 as a sophomore to 37.3 as a junior to 32.1 this past season, and Kyle Mallers went from 34.6 to 33.7 to 30 percent this past season. That just shouldn't happen, yet it did. It's like your broker got you into two $100 per share stocks that at the end of three years were worth something in the $40's. Would you continue to take investment advise from such a broker? Same with Kiapway and Davis. Whitford has mastered the art of killing your seniors. Moses also regressed this year. The offensive scheme is flawed as Reevo has continually pointed out and Mr. One Trick has zero clue on what to do. Sherm is exactly right too. No way was he gonna offer any explanation or excuses in that article after the first one was written with comments from his boss about the season. Goetz mentioned we needed to work harder which is telling. But we also need to work smarter and be adaptable which is not a hallmark of this coach. Who other than a few obvious jock sniffers has any confidence in this regime? Honest question.
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Post by redbirdman on Mar 30, 2019 8:40:25 GMT -6
Most teams players improve ours regress the longer they are here. The only conclusion you can make is the coaching or their team mates in some way affect them negatively.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 30, 2019 8:55:58 GMT -6
A few things I'd like to point out:
I think the NCAA tourney has a disproportionally huge effect on recruiting. I'm sure recruits notice how much more attention everyone in the country pays to college basketball during the tourney and also the post season is their last impression of programs as they go into the long off-season.
Whitford is now in a MUCH weaker recruiting position now, as compared to his first day on the job. A new coach, if he has any persuasive powers, can sell recruits his fresh, clean, shiny vision of his program and there is nothing to contradict it. After six years of going absolutely nowhere in the post season, and with an 11th place finish sticking to his shoes like dog shit, how are kids possibly going to envision themselves in the tourney if they go with Whitford?
Recruiters recruit and quality coaches win. If you hear apologist, jock-sniffing "supportive fans" making excuses for your coach's initial failures, you know your program is in trouble.
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Post by redfeather on Mar 30, 2019 9:29:14 GMT -6
He seemingly made zero adjustments all season. What got me in this article is when Whitford said he wasn’t able to find/make the right adjustment once Ohio figures out that they just needed to pack the middle because everyone knew we were unable to hit any outside shots!?! Ok I’m not a coach but how about trying a different offense idk like a motion offense to work the ball to an open man inside?? Unbelievable!
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Post by redfeather on Mar 30, 2019 9:39:25 GMT -6
You want to see a really good coach and a very good team then you should watch Lipscomb’s team playing in the THE FINAL FOUR for the NIT! This school was NAIA not long ago and now they just took down NC St on their home court to reach the final four. Then they beat Davidson and UNC Greensboro aka. First one out of the NCAA tournament both on their home courts. Lipscomb probably has half the budget we do however their administration is able to find a coach that can ah, COACH!
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 31, 2019 10:54:07 GMT -6
Both Luke and Kroft are elite HS scorers!
Is that a fair comment? And, haven’t they done that at a high Division HS level?
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Post by cardfan on Mar 31, 2019 11:07:27 GMT -6
Thought you wanted whit gone because no championship game and not even Nit at minimum.
And whit called kroft an elite shooter, not elite scorer. Stats don’t bear that out. Yeah he can score but so can a lot of high school kids. We’ll see. Hope he can contribute quickly.
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 31, 2019 11:18:28 GMT -6
I right now don’t care if Whit stays or goes so you’re right Cardfan.
I don’t truly care what Whit said my point is simply these two are I suspect some of the highest per game scorers Indiana HS had at a High Division level. Yes other kids in HS score but not like they did for the most part.
Now, whether it translates to D 1 remains to be seen, right?
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