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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 6:49:24 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 12, 2019 7:43:23 GMT -6
That's a huge mistake. What if Alford has gotten burned out on recruiting? What if the security of that contract...and his increasing age....makes him decide he doesn't feel like kissing the butts of a bunch of teenagers anymore? This happens with coaches sometimes, and who can blame them? It's a dumb move by Nevada.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 9:04:47 GMT -6
Security will be tight for the new Nevada coach... as tight as Lieutenant Jim Dangle's shorts.
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Post by bsu0 on Apr 12, 2019 9:35:07 GMT -6
Another cheerleader gets another gig and another AD proves to the world he or she doesn't know the criteria for choosing a really good coach.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 12, 2019 10:21:56 GMT -6
Another cheerleader gets another gig and another AD proves to the world he or she doesn't know the criteria for choosing a really good coach. I don't get this. I would not call him a great coach, not HOF, but where does he fall short of being a good coach?
Alford has a very good record everywhere he has coached. More a system coach and teacher than a "players coach" at most stops along the line and often he has been very successful with relatively unheralded recruits.
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Post by sweep on Apr 12, 2019 11:42:45 GMT -6
Another cheerleader gets another gig and another AD proves to the world he or she doesn't know the criteria for choosing a really good coach.
Alford has a very good record everywhere he has coached.
How is his NCAA tourney record ? He did a nice job at New Mexico other than that he has been incredibly "meh".
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 12, 2019 12:42:02 GMT -6
His career trajectory would concern me. He may have been hustling at New Mexico with the idea he would move up to the big time. Now he's been to the mountain top and it didn't work out. Plus he is simply older now. This is the point at which many coaches switch over to cruise control.....and that's a program killer because maniacal recruiting energy is absolutely necessary for success at most programs. Unless they are tied into the Nike $$$ recruiting scheme like Coach K. Then you are basically the head of a marketing division of Nike and others do the recruiting for you....with all the Nike dollars behind them and a distinct disinclination from the NCAA to look to closely at things.
Who knows? Maybe the UCLA thing really pissed Alford off and he will work twice as hard as before...just to show them. But I wouldn't bet a 10 year contract on that. The fact that he would even WANT a 10 year contract makes me suspect the cruise control scenario. I think Nevada went out and bought themselves a name and a resume without thinking things through very well.
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Post by bsu0 on Apr 12, 2019 13:20:35 GMT -6
Alford is becoming Tubbie Smith without a National Championship.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 12, 2019 13:23:36 GMT -6
His career trajectory would concern me. He may have been hustling at New Mexico with the idea he would move up to the big time. Now he's been to the mountain top and it didn't work out.
C'mon he was 124-63 at UCLA. 2/3 winning percentage. Right at his career winning percentage.
What didn't work at UCLA is he "disappointed" the faithful by not getting to the Sweet 16 in his last two full years, and losing to Liberty, yes.
Overall a trajectory of which a coach should be proud.
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Post by sweep on Apr 12, 2019 13:29:01 GMT -6
His career trajectory would concern me. He may have been hustling at New Mexico with the idea he would move up to the big time. Now he's been to the mountain top and it didn't work out.
C'mon he was 124-63 at UCLA. 2/3 winning percentage. Right at his career winning percentage.
And he was unceremoniously fired in the middle of the season. Sheeesh.................You seem to have a very difficult time discerning the difference between mediocre and "very good".
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 12, 2019 13:29:08 GMT -6
Alford is becoming Tubbie Smith without a National Championship. Smith is good coach. The two lack a bit of charisma perhaps. Both very good coaches. Neither is a "cheerleader" coach.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 12, 2019 14:14:33 GMT -6
His career trajectory would concern me. He may have been hustling at New Mexico with the idea he would move up to the big time. Now he's been to the mountain top and it didn't work out.
C'mon he was 124-63 at UCLA. 2/3 winning percentage. Right at his career winning percentage.
What didn't work at UCLA is he "disappointed" the faithful by not getting to the Sweet 16 in his last two full years, and losing to Liberty, yes.
Overall a trajectory of which a coach should be proud.
You're missing the point.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 12, 2019 14:38:20 GMT -6
Whatever point the statement about his career trajectory was supposed to make, it was misguided.
Your theory that old coaches don't work as hard recruiting and that makes this hire a huge mistake makes a few assumptions. Steve has always worked hard and if he wasn't he would retire.
This deal looks pretty good for both parties. If Steve is taken at his word he doesn't want to be in the job market again, and like the idea of living in Northern Nevada. They have somebody who will be making a real commitment.
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Post by sweep on Apr 12, 2019 15:24:16 GMT -6
Whatever point the statement about his career trajectory was supposed to make, it was misguided.
Yeah that's why he was fired from his pinnacle position midway through a season. Of course you also once proclaimed "everyone likes Pat Knight", so what should we have expected.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 12, 2019 16:44:39 GMT -6
I think anyone who's not dead set on spinning things in favor of "Steve" understands what I meant. Just an observation on career patterns and advancing age and how that can affect someone.
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