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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 13:35:11 GMT -6
If we are to believe KenPom ratings are statistically consistent from year to year.....
I present my Ball State “stat of the day”:
2002- 55 Buckley
2003- 169
2004- 138
2005- 96
2006- 199
2007- 205 Thompson
2008- 234 Taylor
2009- 240
2010- 222
2011- 164
2012- 195
2013- 253
2014- 296 Whitford
2015- 257
2016- 155
2017- 180
2018- 173
2019- 133
2020- 98 *in-progress
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2020 14:42:57 GMT -6
The 25 years before that had a good deal of variation. More years with head above water I think. But it includes our best decade, that we all remember so fondly. It was not 75 years of glory though.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 17, 2020 14:47:51 GMT -6
Well Whit does show improvement but its slow and long.. It could also be argued its flattened out and he will keep us on or near the mendoza line
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 17, 2020 14:48:20 GMT -6
Well Whit does show improvement but its slow and long.. It could also be argued its flattened out and he will keep us on or near the mendoza line
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 17, 2020 21:18:29 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 17, 2020 22:22:55 GMT -6
Akron seemed that good against us. I still think we might get them with a good shooting night, they just don't seem as physically dominant as Buffalo has been.
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Post by rgmillikan on Jan 18, 2020 10:05:40 GMT -6
Unfortunately given Ball State's February swoons I have a bad feeling BSU won't finish in the top 100 although it wouldbe excellent if that changes this season. I think to truly return theyd need to finish off 2 consecutive seasons inside the top 100 in most metrics, and qualify at least once for either the NIT or NCAAs.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 18, 2020 10:09:27 GMT -6
nah we will finish 125-150
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Post by rgmillikan on Jan 18, 2020 10:09:49 GMT -6
The 25 years before that had a good deal of variation. More years with head above water I think. But it includes our best decade, that we all remember so fondly. It was not 75 years of glory though. True, I'd say their peak of their glory days were 1988-89 through 2001-02. They were up and down a bit from 1980-81 through 1988 and imo the 2004-05 team wasnt quite as good as that ranking suggests. They were good but not like their best years. |
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Post by rgmillikan on Jan 18, 2020 10:11:54 GMT -6
2019 felt like the most disappointing 133 ever given after the Toledo opening MAC win they were probably around 76.
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Post by CallingBS on Jan 18, 2020 10:36:48 GMT -6
2019 felt like the most disappointing 133 ever given after the Toledo opening MAC win they were probably around 76. Yes. Our quality of play at the end would suggest we were in the mid to upper 200's. Also, Buffalo helped the entire conference's rating last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 19:00:05 GMT -6
If we are to believe KenPom ratings are statistically consistent from year to year..... I present my Ball State “stat of the day”: 2002- 55 Buckley 2003- 169 2004- 138 2005- 96 2006- 199 2007- 205 Thompson 2008- 234 Taylor 2009- 240 2010- 222 2011- 164 2012- 195 2013- 253 2014- 296 Whitford 2015- 257 2016- 155 2017- 180 2018- 173 2019- 133 2020- 98 *in-progress This exercise really makes me question the algorithms Pomeroy uses to rank teams. We finished 11/12 in 2019 MAC and were one and done in the tournament, yet he has us at 133 for year end. It might be a good tool to evaluate long term direction (assuming the year to year algorithms aren’t tweeked) but there are too many anomalies when you compare specific teams within a given year. |
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 20, 2020 19:13:04 GMT -6
It's partly parity. In the middle 100 teams, the point spread isn't great.
A hot team could beat one a lot higher.
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