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Post by lmills72 on Jan 29, 2020 20:05:47 GMT -6
Objective: Create an OverThePylon Ball State Basketball Hall of Fame voted on by board members.
Rules: Players must have finished their playing days at Ball State. Voting should be based solely on their play on the court. If voters want to attach some perceived sense of morality to their vote, so be it, but that is not a stated objective of this Hall.
Voting: Voters should submit their top 10 Ball State players in order with (1) being their top choice. No. 1 on each voter's list shall receive 10 points, No. 2 shall receive 9, No. 3 will get 8, etc. At the end of the voting period, the players with the top 5 point totals will be inducted as that year's class of honorees. Each board member may submit one list of 10 players.
2020 inductees
Bonzi Wells
Ray McCallum
Dan Palombizio
Theron Smith
Larry Bullington
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Post by lmills72 on Jan 29, 2020 20:08:54 GMT -6
My votes for our inaugural class:
1. Bonzi Wells
2. Ray McCallum
3. Theron Smith
4. Steve Payne
5. Larry Bullington
6. Dan Palombizio
7. Jim Regenold
8. Ed Butler
9. Duane Clemens
10. Paris McCurdy
Admittedly heavily skewed toward players I actually saw play with a few nods to folks whose place in the record book make them appealing.
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Post by realitycheck on Jan 29, 2020 20:26:13 GMT -6
Good list. Chris Williams had a great two years and would be a shoe in if he’d played even three.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Jan 30, 2020 7:08:55 GMT -6
Is this just for men's basketball?
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Post by calpoly on Jan 30, 2020 9:27:47 GMT -6
1 Ray McCallum
2 Bonzi Wells
3 Dan Palombizio
4 Theron Smith
5 Paris McCurdy
6 Curtis Kidd
7 Chris Williams
8 Skip Mills
9 Ed Butler
10 John Williams
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 30, 2020 9:43:34 GMT -6
Mines going to be screwed up because I dont know the older players.
RAY
BONZI
THERON
PARIS
CHANDLER
PALAMBIZO
PETEY
LONNIE
PERSONS
AND UMMMMM MOSES
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 30, 2020 10:56:53 GMT -6
That's the issue with most HOF entries.
Look at baseball and the NFL. Most of us are old timers and remember the old time names that come up and the ones not making it after years and then are forgotten maybe forever. Flip side there are newer players nominated and named who I confess I don't know, never saw play.
Part of that is the expansion of franchises. So many teams, divisions, players and often if you are teams fan, you only see some teams just for a few games every year, and just can't follow it all.
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Post by realitycheck on Jan 30, 2020 11:08:31 GMT -6
Any list that doesn't include Payne can't be taken seriously. He was absolutely unstoppable. Payne was MAC Tourney MVP twice and First Team All MAC three times which happens to be how many years he played for us.
I never saw Ed Butler play but he AVERAGED 17 rebounds in his career. C'mon he has to be in.
BTW, all Larry Bullington did was average 23.6 over THREE years and was a two-time All American honorable mention, once by the Sporting News. I would submit, you didn't have to see a player in person to know whether they are a HOFer or not. There are hundreds of players in many sports who I have never seen play but their credentials speak for themselves.
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Post by realitycheck on Jan 30, 2020 11:26:42 GMT -6
Mines going to be screwed up because I dont know the older players. RAY BONZI THERON PARIS CHANDLER PALAMBIZO PETEY LONNIE PERSONS AND UMMMMM MOSES You are spot on...your list is screwed up, Rob.  |
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Post by williamtsherman on Jan 30, 2020 12:04:46 GMT -6
There's a very tough decision right off the bat: Bonzi vs Ray for the 1 spot. A classic apples vs oranges choice.
No doubt that Bonzi was by far the superior player. But Ray meant more to the program overall, even if you don't factor in the coaching stint. I guess in a fantasy draft I take Bonzi first, but in the HOF I'll take Ray.
Here is a 3rd criteria that's very difficult. What if you are a coach, you are recruiting Bonzi and Ray and they both want to come but you have only one scholarship. And somehow you have full knowledge of what sort of college player both will be. Who do you choose? I think if I'm a MAC coach I might take Ray....I think, but if I'm and ACC coach I'd take Bonzi. (Remember, all Ray's stats are without the 3 pt shot, which would have been like a lay up for him) But more likely what I would do is plant drugs on one of my current players and kick them off the team, then take both. (Recruiters recruit!) |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 30, 2020 12:09:34 GMT -6
Mines going to be screwed up because I dont know the older players. RAY BONZI THERON PARIS CHANDLER PALAMBIZO PETEY LONNIE PERSONS AND UMMMMM MOSES You are spot on...your list is screwed up, Rob. well yea I have not been around since the stone ages |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 30, 2020 12:11:43 GMT -6
Any list that doesn't include Payne can't be taken seriously. He was absolutely unstoppable. Payne was MAC Tourney MVP twice and First Team All MAC three times which happens to be how many years he played for us. I never saw Ed Butler play but he AVERAGED 17 rebounds in his career. C'mon he has to be in. BTW, all Larry Bullington did was average 23.6 over THREE years and was a two-time All American honorable mention, once by the Sporting News. I would submit, you didn't have to see a player in person to know whether they are a HOFer or not. There are hundreds of players in many sports who I have never seen play but their credentials speak for themselves. I believe you but without seeing them you really have to take the time to type their name into google and check real life stats... I do not have time for the truth |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Jan 30, 2020 13:31:02 GMT -6
1. Bonzi Wells
2. Ray McCallum
3. Chandler Thompson
4. Larry Bullington
5. Dan Palombizio
6. Paris McCurdy
7. Ed Butler
8. Steve Payne
9. Jim Regenold
10a. Chris Williams
10b. Curtis Kidd
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 30, 2020 13:38:01 GMT -6
You guys remember that akron game when Chris William's just went nuts
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Post by realitycheck on Jan 30, 2020 15:40:56 GMT -6
You are spot on...your list is screwed up, Rob. well yea I have not been around since the stone ages Touche, mon frere! I deserved that! LOL |
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