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Post by david75bsu on Feb 13, 2020 7:12:59 GMT -6
Acree and Thomas are beginning to see playing time and are showing positive signs. Acree as guard is doing a good job, good rebounder as well, a good nose for the ball. I like the length of Thomas and not a bad three point shooter. By the way, it’s nice to see Teague being able to hit his threes when left open. Means he has to be guarded - think he is approaching 30% at long range. All this helps as we head into the closing round of the season. if KJ could play, it would be icing on the cake.
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Post by thebsukid on Feb 13, 2020 7:30:48 GMT -6
I agree on all counts; we are going 9 deep and that’s depth in any league. I’m hoping we’ll get KJ but possibly they are inquiring with NCAA on 6th year and on that basis determining if he’ll come back! It must be complicated!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 8:27:31 GMT -6
There may be another player in the mix but any perceived depth isn’t impacting the starting rotations “minutes played”
Using the first four conference games vs. the last four conference games (2 home 2 away in each case)......
Starters played 613 minutes in first 4 games and 614 minutes in last 4 games.
I’ve mentioned before that our freshmen starters are playing a lot of minutes as we approach MAC tournament.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 13, 2020 9:20:55 GMT -6
There may be another player in the mix but any perceived depth isn’t impacting the starting rotations “minutes played”..... I’ve mentioned before that our freshmen starters are playing a lot of minutes as we approach MAC tournament. I agree. A coach can shorten practice and try to lessen the impact by using the bench minutes very carefully, but when we face 3 games in 3 days we are in some trouble. And defense is so much about effort and physical superiority.
I'd worry more about Bumbalough than Coleman, he's smaller and can be pushed around unless he plays very hard, while Coleman's size and another year may make a difference for him.
That's where KJ would really be a plus, he can provide minutes plus energy (even at 85-90%) to put pressure on the opponent.
The only good news in this situation is several other teams we might face are also not very deep. The draw in the tournament could make a big difference, and we probably need to have at least one game where we shoot lights out and can outscore somebody.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 13, 2020 9:53:29 GMT -6
I agree on all counts; we are going 9 deep and that’s depth in any league. I’m hoping we’ll get KJ but possibly they are inquiring with NCAA on 6th year and on that basis determining if he’ll come back! It must be complicated! That's exactly what I've been saying for 6 weeks. He has been ready for most of that time.. Now answer me this what happens if he is denied the 6th or if he decides to transfer. Would it have been better to have him at 85-90% or maybe 95% next year. His ankle is never going to be 100% again
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Post by cardfan on Feb 13, 2020 9:59:30 GMT -6
Sounds more to me that Walton is trying To preserve his body in the hopes of playing professionally one day even though it sure as hell looks like he could be helping his team THIS SEASON. I think he’s made a business decision on the advice of somebody and whit is playing along even though it hurts his team.
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Post by david75bsu on Feb 13, 2020 10:04:50 GMT -6
KJ is fully dressed and warming up for games, wish he had the will or ok to play. If we are to end the year strong, we need him playing now.
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Post by universityjim on Feb 13, 2020 10:19:42 GMT -6
I'm not sure I see KJ as a professional player. His weaknesses way outweight his strengths. His athleticism gives him an advantage at the college level and allows him to fill some of our weaknesses, but I don't think it would at any level of professional basketball. Even at the college level he has rarely been able to take advantage of his speed and legendary leaping ability. I just don't see it. Honestly I think he is in the wrong sport.
You guys can call me nuts if you want. That's just how I see it.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Feb 13, 2020 10:25:31 GMT -6
I'm not sure I see KJ as a professional player. His weaknesses way outweight his strengths. His athleticism gives him an advantage at the college level and allows him to fill some of our weaknesses, but I don't think it would at any level of professional basketball. Even at the college level he has rarely been able to take advantage of his speed and legendary leaping ability. I just don't see it. Honestly I think he is in the wrong sport. You guys can call me nuts if you want. That's just how I see it. I agree. Honestly I don't think he’s ever lived up to the hype. I don't view him being out as that big of a hole to fill, and don't think things will change much if he comes back.
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Post by realitycheck on Feb 13, 2020 10:33:18 GMT -6
Acree and Thomas are beginning to see playing time and are showing positive signs. Acree as guard is doing a good job, good rebounder as well, a good nose for the ball. I like the length of Thomas and not a bad three point shooter. By the way, it’s nice to see Teague being able to hit his threes when left open. Means he has to be guarded - think he is approaching 30% at long range. All this helps as we head into the closing round of the season. if KJ could play, it would be icing on the cake. What universe are you viewing this in? This is ridiculous. We have no quality depth. Here's last game box score. Acree had one basket, one rebound and a turnover. Thomas had 0 points, 0 rebounds. Thompson 2 points and 1 rebound and 1 assist. In the previous game at Western, this trio combined for 5 points, 1 rebound and 1 assist. Please tell me you post was sarcasm. In MAC games, Teague is 10-31 from three. Better than his career average but 70% of the time he misses and our best rebounder by a ton is 20 feet from the basket. What a great strategy.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 13, 2020 10:37:16 GMT -6
I'm not sure I see KJ as a professional player. His weaknesses way outweight his strengths. His athleticism gives him an advantage at the college level and allows him to fill some of our weaknesses, but I don't think it would at any level of professional basketball. Even at the college level he has rarely been able to take advantage of his speed and legendary leaping ability. I just don't see it. Honestly I think he is in the wrong sport. You guys can call me nuts if you want. That's just how I see it. 100% agree. But what his family/advisors tell him might be unrealistic expectations. That’s purely speculation on my part based on what we’ve observed and how evasive Whitford has been about it. I think KJ would be a helluva volleyball player or football player. Imagine him at linebacker or DE. Or WR. But as far as basketball he lacks the skill level in terms of shooting and ball handling to be effective long term. And to be very honest, I’m not sure his basketball instincts are that great. He’s definitely a helluva athlete. He can get you some rebounds and some buckets around the rim.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 10:52:21 GMT -6
Thinking out loud 🤔..... if this player truly IS able to play (and isn’t) while we are in the hunt for a top 4 tournament seed, something tells me Whit’s job must be pretty secure..
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Post by cardfan on Feb 13, 2020 11:00:42 GMT -6
Acree and Thomas are beginning to see playing time and are showing positive signs. Acree as guard is doing a good job, good rebounder as well, a good nose for the ball. I like the length of Thomas and not a bad three point shooter. By the way, it’s nice to see Teague being able to hit his threes when left open. Means he has to be guarded - think he is approaching 30% at long range. All this helps as we head into the closing round of the season. if KJ could play, it would be icing on the cake. What universe are you viewing this in? This is ridiculous. We have no quality depth. Here's last game box score. Acree had one basket, one rebound and a turnover. Thomas had 0 points, 0 rebounds. Thompson 2 points and 1 rebound and 1 assist. In the previous game at Western, this trio combined for 5 points, 1 rebound and 1 assist. Please tell me you post was sarcasm. In MAC games, Teague is 10-31 from three. Better than his career average but 70% of the time he misses and our best rebounder by a ton is 20 feet from the basket. What a great strategy. I think we tend to get caught up in a good game or two, or good moments and think we’ve got it going. Like you, I’ve always talked about the lack of effective depth. A bench where you know what you’re going to get from players every game and can count on them to provide quality minutes, not empty minutes. The numbers you’ve cited are mop up minute numbers, not effective, contributing depth type numbers. We still don’t know game to game what we’ll get from anyone coming off the bench. There’s very little punch. It’s not consistently effective. Sure, they’ve each had a game or two where they flashed. But in general that’s not the case. And yes, our starters are playing heavy minutes. Bumbalough is struggling. His production is sporadic. In the MAC Tourney format will we hold up?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Feb 13, 2020 11:13:09 GMT -6
Still don't know why Bumb is starting. He plays hard, no denying that, but he's physically limited on defense (short legs = no verticality), and struggles to hit shots that are even slightly guarded.
I love his attitude, but he should come off the bench.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 13, 2020 11:14:23 GMT -6
Still don't know why Bumb is starting. He plays hard, no denying that, but he's physically limited on defense (short legs = no verticality), and struggles to hit shots that are even slightly guarded. I love his attitude, but he should come off the bench. Agree.
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