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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 12, 2020 16:03:44 GMT -6
Look at you guys hiding in here having your own argument Well Done Well done
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 12, 2020 17:50:12 GMT -6
Yeah, nobody cares much about the bad news in budgets.
Who wants to look at that painful subject.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Apr 13, 2020 6:38:31 GMT -6
Look at you guys hiding in here having your own argument Well Done Well done Idle hands are the devil's workshop. |
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Post by cardfan on Apr 13, 2020 6:49:03 GMT -6
We all just trying to stay sharp!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 7:56:40 GMT -6
🤔 Don’t I recall the state of Indiana turning over the financially strapped Muncie School system to be run by the now financially strapped Ball State University?
Muncie citizens should really be feeling good about THAT decision now.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 13, 2020 7:58:45 GMT -6
🤔 Don’t I recall the state of Indiana turning over the financially strapped Muncie School system to be run by the now financially strapped Ball State University? Muncie citizens should really be feeling good about THAT decision now. You raise a very interesting point. |
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Post by comet on Apr 13, 2020 8:41:16 GMT -6
🤔 Don’t I recall the state of Indiana turning over the financially strapped Muncie School system to be run by the now financially strapped Ball State University? Muncie citizens should really be feeling good about THAT decision now. Ouch, good point. I never understood BSU wanting to be involved in that anyway. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Apr 13, 2020 9:02:58 GMT -6
What's another financial crisis when you have governors flagrantly violating people's civil liberties?
How much fascism are you willing to put up with, in the illusion of "keeping us safe"?
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 13, 2020 10:33:19 GMT -6
What's another financial crisis when you have governors flagrantly violating people's civil liberties? How much fascism are you willing to put up with, in the illusion of "keeping us safe"? The question could be rephrased to be "How much liberty is protected by law if it puts others at risk?"
Related questions are:
"Don't governors have the responsibility to determine the degree of danger and to act on it to protect the public?"
"How are governors acting under their legal responsibility authorized by constitution and stattue taking any life liberty or property without due process of law?
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Apr 13, 2020 10:58:27 GMT -6
The question could be rephrased to be "How much liberty is protected by law if it puts others at risk?"
Liberty either exists, or it does not. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." The right to peaceably assemble is most definitely being prohibited. Prove me wrong. |
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Post by lmills72 on Apr 13, 2020 11:42:26 GMT -6
The right to peaceably assemble is most definitely being prohibited. Prove me wrong. You are right there. I would certainly support the government allowing all those who want to peaceably assemble to do so immediately ... in Kansas (if we need to annex Nebraska because of demand, we can do that). Folks can attend their church services, meet up at Starbucks for a latte, play a round of golf, hit the nightclubs, go to a concert or 2, flirt with their favorite waiter/waitress at iHOP, grab a beer with their friends and bitch about how weak and coddled the rest of the world is. And when you're all dead, we can incinerate the place and plant some flowers. Sounds perfect to me. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Apr 13, 2020 12:03:10 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 13, 2020 12:38:23 GMT -6
The question could be rephrased to be "How much liberty is protected by law if it puts others at risk?" The right to peaceably assemble is most definitely being prohibited. Prove me wrong. OK.
Peaceful assembly is now limited. But hardly prohibited. Small groups can assemble. Social distance (which isn't really enforced very much) is still assembly.
No right is absolute. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to bear arms, all of them have Constitutional limits.
Attempting to keep assembly safe and preventing the assembly causing danger to others is justified.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 13, 2020 12:39:23 GMT -6
The right to peaceably assemble is most definitely being prohibited. Prove me wrong. And when you're all dead, we can incinerate the place and plant some flowers. Sounds like the ultimately peaceful assembly. |
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Apr 13, 2020 12:45:52 GMT -6
The right to peaceably assemble is most definitely being prohibited. Prove me wrong. OK.
Peaceful assembly is now limited. But hardly prohibited. Small groups can assemble. Social distance (which isn't really enforced very much) is still assembly.
No right is absolute. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to bear arms, all of them have Constitutional limits.
Attempting to keep assembly safe and preventing the assembly causing danger to others is justified.
You say it's not prohibited, and then qualify it by saying small groups can assemble. Churches are being disallowed from holding services, even drive in (a double whammy). People are being issued tickets for watching sunsets on the beach. Families are being denied the right to visit each other. This is not constitutional. There is nothing you can say that will convince me, or any thinking person, that it is. Any other freedoms you're willing to give up? |
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