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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 20:08:38 GMT -6
Why not bring in Marshall, WKU, Middle Tennessee and UNC-Charlotte? Make it a well-rounded 16 teams, with eight team divisions. You would probably have to cut OOC to 3 games per year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 20:23:24 GMT -6
Marshall looking for a quick, cheap parking spot. This time, there won’t be a quick way out as Power 5 sucks the life out of the wannabe conferences.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 7, 2020 20:42:07 GMT -6
Marshall here is clearly like the semi-hot girl who uses the loser guy when she is temporarily lacking better options. But when the guy's next best option is yet another session of self-abuse in the shower, what does he have to lose?
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Post by universityjim on Apr 7, 2020 20:56:10 GMT -6
I think I would compare Marshall to a trailer-park hooker.
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Post by cardfan on Apr 7, 2020 21:03:16 GMT -6
Get Marshall today and tomorrow they are Gone Gone Gone. When will you learn? They ''shot their wad'' a long time ago. Let 'em play with themselves. They have used the MAC twice to rebuild their football program, then moved on to "greener pastures." Do we want to grant them a third time? Nope. But, it’s the MAC, so they’d probably do it.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 7, 2020 21:36:12 GMT -6
Not sure there will be greener pastures for anybody as conferences fail.
If we take on the other schools who can't find homes in greener pastures, how is that good? I am not sure I am understanding this.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 7, 2020 21:52:23 GMT -6
The mac president is a die hard football guy.. The Mac will go down swinging until the bitter end or the pres get replaced
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Post by frozenbaugh on Apr 8, 2020 6:36:11 GMT -6
Geographically, Marshall is a great fit but they see themselves as a southern school. They wanted out of the MAC as soon as they got in so no thanks.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 8, 2020 7:08:42 GMT -6
Not sure there will be greener pastures for anybody as conferences fail. If we take on the other schools who can't find homes in greener pastures, how is that good? I am not sure I am understanding this. How will we tell when the MAC "fails" if requiring a yearly eight figure subsidy isn't failure.
This is another case where a ship can't sink when its keel is already resting on the bottom. Adding another one or two schools isn't going to significantly change the numbers of the MAC, unless maybe those schools are Alabama and Clemson.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 8, 2020 7:25:25 GMT -6
Geographically, Marshall is a great fit but they see themselves as a southern school. They wanted out of the MAC as soon as they got in so no thanks. Turns out being a southern school conference member was not all roses. But that's just part of a larger problem of being a mid major. Even in the South, even with better crowds. It didn't change their situation all that much.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 8, 2020 7:30:08 GMT -6
Not sure there will be greener pastures for anybody as conferences fail. If we take on the other schools who can't find homes in greener pastures, how is that good? I am not sure I am understanding this. How will we tell when the MAC "fails" if requiring a yearly eight figure subsidy isn't failure.
This is another case where a ship can't sink when its keel is already resting on the bottom. Adding another one or two schools isn't going to significantly change the numbers of the MAC, unless maybe those schools are Alabama and Clemson. The problem is that ship is leaking badly but not sunk yet. Everyone is bailing out the life boat and we are still sinking. Row the boat!
I fear the MAC president sees another boat going under and thinks that is good news, takes the survivors on board his overcrowded boat. "Great we will have somebody else to help bail."
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 8, 2020 7:44:42 GMT -6
Still not sure how you define "failure". MAC football is already failing badly by any reasonable metric or definition, and has been for quite some time.
I suppose the only thing you could mean is that students and taxpayers stop propping up MAC football. That would seem to me to be a re-establishment of sound priorities, rather than failure.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 8, 2020 9:07:06 GMT -6
Still not sure how you define "failure". MAC football is already failing badly by any reasonable metric or definition, and has been for quite some time. We were talking about the MAC leadership's decisions here. You want clear success? You want reasonable metrics? Hah!
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Post by david75bsu on Apr 8, 2020 9:36:23 GMT -6
Again, the only reason the MAC has any ability for semi-success versus CUSA or others is the significant difference in travel expense. We are a bus league versus an air plain league for CUSA or other mid-Majors. Marshall and Western KY would allow us to continue the bus league status. Some may want to call this a bush league, don’t care, I’d even add an Indiana or Illinois State to that list of possible targets. Keep down travel expense. Cost far les to bus versus fly.
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Post by williamtsherman on Apr 8, 2020 9:41:51 GMT -6
Football supporters here are against taking Marshall just because Marshall jilted them before and they are still pissed about it. Marshall is obviously a stronger program with more of a fanbase than any MAC school, but not nearly strong enough to make a serious difference. Whether the MAC takes them back or not, it will still be a joke conference whose programs have to be supported by huge subsidies from student fees.
MAC football is like a 5 gallon bucket of raw sewage. Does it make any difference whether you pour a glass of clean water, or a glass of piss into it? You still have a nasty bucket of sewage either way.
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