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Post by redbirdman on May 15, 2020 9:46:08 GMT -6
MAC schools will have 70 man traveling squads this fall previously 76. MAC squads will not stay in motels the night before the game. (So I assume we arrive game day) Most of our away games won't be bad except the game at Buffalo on October 10th.
Question I have is with the projected low student enrollments why can't the MAC schools open up a closed dorm at each campus & have the visitors stay there when visiting. Charge the visitor for meals & any costs out of the norm only. We are now a bus league for sure.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 15, 2020 9:52:54 GMT -6
MAC schools will have 70 man traveling squads this fall previously 76. MAC squads will not stay in motels the night before the game. (So I assume we arrive game day) Most of our away games won't be bad except the game at Buffalo on October 10th.
Question I have is with the projected low student enrollments why can't the MAC schools open up a closed dorm at each campus & have the visitors stay there when visiting. Charge the visitor for meals & any costs out of the norm only. We are now a bus league for sure.
This link from Toledo says no hotels before Home Games
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Post by redbirdman on May 15, 2020 10:09:55 GMT -6
I got it from the blog of EMU which referenced Toledo as source they had also as did I mistake visiting & home teams on hotels night before games.
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Post by bsutony on May 15, 2020 10:20:23 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but no hotel for home games doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. I get why they did it, but it kind of feels like a waste of money to me. It gives the players some structure and routine the night before a game, but I’m sure they can find a way to make the new way work. I don’t think cutting the traveling squad by 6 players hurts too bad either. 70 players is more than enough.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 15, 2020 10:31:39 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but no hotel for home games doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. I get why they did it, but it kind of feels like a waste of money to me. It gives the players some structure and routine the night before a game, but I’m sure they can find a way to make the new way work. I don’t think cutting the traveling squad by 6 players hurts too bad either. 70 players is more than enough. Yea none of this matters on gameday.. If you have some knuckleheads you might see and hear of a few problems when someone gets drunk the night before
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 15, 2020 10:32:57 GMT -6
My question is was the Mac or the School footing the bill for the hotels before games.. Seems like it would be a school decision if the school were paying it.
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Post by 00hmh on May 15, 2020 10:33:32 GMT -6
Question I have is with the projected low student enrollments why can't the MAC schools open up a closed dorm at each campus & have the visitors stay there when visiting. Charge the visitor for meals & any costs out of the norm only. We are now a bus league for sure. I think any extra dorm space will be eaten up by social distancing with a dorm for quarantine when cases occur, and a dorm for at risk students, which may be as many as 10-20% of students.
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Post by bsu0 on May 15, 2020 11:26:01 GMT -6
Does this apply to the home teams only? How can you play at Ohio and travel from Central or NIL the same day. Many schools would put up the home teams at a hotel so a good night's rest would be had for all and a good pregame meal would be served.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 15, 2020 11:57:40 GMT -6
Yes home teams only... Away teams can still stay overnight
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Post by bsu0 on May 16, 2020 10:01:39 GMT -6
Well this is a game changer. I wonder on how effective the home field advantage may be with cold beer and a 3am bed check the night before and cold pizza for the pregame meal with an 11am kickoff.
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Post by williamtsherman on May 16, 2020 12:26:19 GMT -6
Amusing to see MAC football delicately chip around the edges of the schools' yearly $10 million loss. Apparently since schools like Ohio State was able to sequester their players, who are evidently too immature to be trusted to be on their own, in a hotel and pay for it out of their vast football revenue, it was also necessary for the MAC programs to do the same and have their general student body cover the cost through the the "fees' they were paying. What's a little more student loan debt?
MAC football clearly intends to keep their claws into the bulk of the yearly multi-million dollar subsidy necessary to keep it afloat for their miniscule fanbases. And I have always told you football supporters for years that you have nothing to worry about. But now. Now you can worry. What's going to happen when a significant number of MAC university employees lose their jobs? What's going to happen when MAC presidents are crawling around statehouses on their knees begging for money to cover their shortfalls?
It's not widely known that something like $10 million per program per year is necessary to cover the losses for MAC football. Will that stay under wraps? The people who are going to lose their jobs are largely an educated and potentially vocal group. Not sure that they are going to see, say for example, the Akron at EMU game in front of dozens of paying customers as a good trade off for their jobs.
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Post by bsu0 on May 16, 2020 13:12:44 GMT -6
I have to agree with the General. It does not look good for the future of Ball State football...In any division
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Post by 00hmh on May 16, 2020 13:45:11 GMT -6
Losing FB is not the thing I worry about. We have to expect broad cuts by the state in support plus lower enrollment. This means we have a hard time maintaining a lot of the things we have been building over the last 40 years to become a university that has some national respect.
Worse, the legislature really is lukewarm to our desire to be something special and are very protective of IU and PU. This crunch could see them reallocate scares higher ed funding and basically to permanently cut funding below our previous levels. They would basically be happty to relegate us to a much lower class institution.
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Post by CallingBS on May 16, 2020 18:37:52 GMT -6
My question is was the Mac or the School footing the bill for the hotels before games.. Seems like it would be a school decision if the school were paying it. Oh, Rob, we need to give you a lesson in college athletics finance. First, the MAC essentially pays for nothing. Second, well, that's all you really need to know. Hotel for home games was a huge waste of money.
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Post by david75bsu on May 16, 2020 18:41:10 GMT -6
Losing FB is not the thing I worry about. We have to expect broad cuts by the state in support plus lower enrollment. This means we have a hard time maintaining a lot of the things we have been building over the last 40 years to become a university that has some national respect. Worse, the legislature really is lukewarm to our desire to be something special and are very protective of IU and PU. This crunch could see them reallocate scares higher ed funding and basically to permanently cut funding below our previous levels. They would basically be happty to relegate us to a much lower class institution. Always been the case. In the 60’s we tried to get a law school and a med school. IU said NO! That’s when they tossed us the College of Architecture. Nice gain, big loss. Now we have a shortage of doctors, enough lawyers.
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