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Post by bsutrack on Nov 23, 2021 22:18:10 GMT -6
Uh, aren't cops paid to protect the public, and put themselves in vulnerable positions to do so? Also, Rittenhouse didn't have an "automatic weapon.... 1 - He had as much right to be there as the rioters. 2 - He avoided shooting as long as he possibly could. 3 - He didn't hit any bystanders. 4 - He shot only in defense of his life, and didn't fire wildly. 5 - He is legally allowed to carry a rifle like the one he had, even at 17. Personally, I think he showed tremendous restraint. And remarkable accuracy, better than most cops. I'm not sure what the prosecutor was trying to do, but his closing arguments were comical and childish. He was awful over the course of the trial, so the defense didn't have to do much. And when you throw in the shenanigans by the prosecutor (giving a compressed video file to the defense instead of a direct copy, trying to introduce excluded evidence, etc.), a conviction was nearly impossible. Cops are paid, and are trained. Because of training they are unlikely to be the situation this shooter put himself, less likely to panic, and more likely to be able to avoid unnecessary violence.
This was not a job for an amateur whose presence was fairly likely to escalate conflict. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't the Democrat Mayor of this town instructed the Cops to stand down and let the looters' loot? The car dealership which Rittenhouse was attempting to protect had 3 car lots, one of which had been totally torched the night before. He and other concerned citizens were attempting to save what was left of the dealership's inventory. Whenever the trained professionals, in this case the cops, aren't allowed to protect the businesses and property of citizens, citizens will take it into their own hands. They may not be trained, but as long as you have liberal Democratic politicians not standing up for the livelihoods of citizens, you will get more Kyle Rittenhouses. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 23, 2021 22:20:01 GMT -6
I figured I'd click over here and find some Rittenhouse arguing According to 00, this is a Covid thread and there shouldn't be anything else discussed. At least that's the excuse he uses every time I bring-up something he can't defend. It's like he calls "Uncle", let's go back to discussing Covid and not get off topic so I have to defend the liberal idiots who are running the country right now. This is the political arguing thread lol |
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Post by bsutrack on Nov 23, 2021 22:38:39 GMT -6
Experts warn U.S.
Truly disastrous in regions with low vaccination rate.
Experts conclude US border wall would not have helped...
Back on topic: So glad you noticed the disaster unfolding in Europe right now. Last week there were approximately 3,667,000 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the world. Of those, 2,500,000 were in Europe. Think about that for a minute, 68% of every active Covid case in the world was in Europe! All I heard from you running up to the November 2020 elections were how the US should be like Europe, in particular like Germany. Well last week Germany had 333,000 confirmed cases of Covid. That was approximately double what Germany had back in December, 2020. Not looking so good right now are they? I hope you have also noticed all the riots and protests the citizens of Europe have been making. Especially bad in Rotterdam. twitter.com/i/events/1461938359777959937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1462438817139408897%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fwell-never-give-protests-erupt-across-europe-over-govt-covid-tyrannyNot to be outdone, the citizens of Australia also object to their lockdowns. Wonder when senile Joe will be locking down the US? |
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Post by sweep on Nov 24, 2021 5:01:15 GMT -6
"President Joe Biden will require essential, nonresident travelers crossing U.S. land borders, such as truck drivers, government and emergency response officials, to be fully vaccinated beginning on Jan. 22"
Oh I see, so COVID is still so dangerous a truck driver from Canada has to show proof of vaccination, but thousands of illegals streaming across our border on a daily basis pose "no risk". The Biden Administration is a disaster.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Nov 24, 2021 7:26:10 GMT -6
Biden is a lifetime politician who never had a real job, and is in the early stage of dementia.
Harris is a gold-digger who screwed her way into politics, and is in way over her head.
And we're surprised they are completely incapable and incompetent?
But at least we don't have mean tweets anymore. That makes the inflation so much easier to take.
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Post by villagepub on Nov 24, 2021 8:35:24 GMT -6
"President Joe Biden will require essential, nonresident travelers crossing U.S. land borders, such as truck drivers, government and emergency response officials, to be fully vaccinated beginning on Jan. 22" Oh I see, so COVID is still so dangerous a truck driver from Canada has to show proof of vaccination, but thousands of illegals streaming across our border on a daily basis pose "no risk". The Biden Administration is a disaster. Canadian truckers are not future voters who you will guilt into voting for your party. |
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Post by sweep on Nov 24, 2021 8:51:28 GMT -6
"President Joe Biden will require essential, nonresident travelers crossing U.S. land borders, such as truck drivers, government and emergency response officials, to be fully vaccinated beginning on Jan. 22" Oh I see, so COVID is still so dangerous a truck driver from Canada has to show proof of vaccination, but thousands of illegals streaming across our border on a daily basis pose "no risk". The Biden Administration is a disaster. Canadian truckers are not future voters who you will guilt into voting for your party. You are obviously an extreme bigot who hates immigrants. I am going to work hard to have you "cancelled". |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 24, 2021 9:56:07 GMT -6
Canadian truckers are not future voters who you will guilt into voting for your party. You are obviously an extreme bigot who hates immigrants. You are wrong about the hate. It's really more fear of change than hate.
You have a good point to focus on immigration. We need as many immigrants as we can attract. More jobs than we have unemployed now. We have an aging workforce which means we especially need young families to educate. Ideally we attract well educated immigrants who are already educated. More likely the demand we have for future workers requires we fight that demographic problem. It's always been an American strength to welcome change and welcome immigration to create growth. Glad to see you grasping the thorny problem.
Probably need truck drivers for that matter, but those Canadian drivers are not going to stay and work, happy with their citizenship and families North of the border. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 24, 2021 10:17:17 GMT -6
Experts warn U.S.
Truly disastrous in regions with low vaccination rate.
Experts conclude US border wall would not have helped...
Back on topic: So glad you noticed the disaster unfolding in Europe right now. Too bad you didn't read the article and see the biggest problem in Europe is Eastern Europe.
While Germany is experiencing a surge, biggest of the pandemic, that is in comparison to a relative good record early on. Moral of the story is Covid is more dangerous than expected, and unless we vaccinate and institute some mitigation, we will see high numbers.
Probably not record numbers since we had such an abysmal response earlier in the pandemic. Germany now at a peak of over 500 cases per million people. A year ago we were experiencing new cases 700 per million people. Germany at 250 per million. Germany today is twice as high as they were, but not at our peak.
They are at higher rate than we are currently, but then our cases are trending up, so don't count us out! We will no doubt make less urgent response and will match their rate if we are not careful.
Some states, including our league leader currently which is hitting maybe 900 per million last week, are higher than Germany...
Indiana, Michigan and other misguided states are making mitigation efforts much harder by law. |
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 24, 2021 10:27:32 GMT -6
Truly disastrous in regions with low vaccination rate.
Experts conclude US border wall would not have helped...
Back on topic: All I heard from you running up to the November 2020 elections were how the US should be like Europe, in particular like Germany. Well last week Germany had 333,000 confirmed cases of Covid. That was approximately double what Germany had back in December, 2020. Not looking so good right now are they? Nothing I said then has not been born out. My Covid predictions for the US was a little optimistic, pretty good for Germany. That was not considering the delta surge Germany is now facing as cold weather comes a bit earlier in Germany.
Your numbers are accurate but lack of context is disingenuous misinformation. Yes delta is a bigger threat than Germany and US faced a year ago, and we should be paying attention to how hard it is to control.
Given the number of deaths we have seen since October, I don't think we can be proud. Especially since our vaccination rate is not as high as Germany.
Most important you neglect to recognize our case rate is on the rise, and our record a year ago against the less serious variant was so poor. Not looking good for us.
Fortunately we are inching forward with vaccination despite the policy recommendations you seem to back to consciously encourage anti vax sentiment. And "fortunately" our South may have suffered so much from failed mitigation up to now, they will not do as badly in the delta surge.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 24, 2021 22:34:09 GMT -6
For comparison to Germany, as Indiana starts Winter we are at 400 cases per million population. Actually are thinking this is good...
Our vaccination rate under 50%. Will we do better than Germany? Cases should rise the next months.
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Post by villagepub on Nov 25, 2021 10:16:53 GMT -6
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Post by sweep on Nov 26, 2021 16:11:49 GMT -6
"The Biden administration announced plans on Friday to ban travel to the United States from South Africa and seven other countries, just hours after a new coronavirus variant was deemed a highly transmissible virus of concern.
The travel restrictions will begin Monday, affecting South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique and Malawi, according to a senior administration official."
Obviously Joe Biden is a xenophobic bigot, I am waiting for Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to denounce these restrictions.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 26, 2021 17:43:37 GMT -6
Hope they don't make as many exceptions as Trump travel ban. And test better to track the inevitable failure of the ban.
This is a relatively temporary solution. It is buying time for vaccination and for science on the new threat.
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Post by bsutrack on Nov 26, 2021 20:16:53 GMT -6
The hypocrisy of the Democratic Party is on full display with this travel ban.Their concern about a few thousand travelers from Africa who can easily be tested and tracked while not being concerned about 100's of thousands of Illegals coming across the southern border who aren't being tested or tracked after release into the USA. With Illegals from over 100 countries crossing the southern border, you can't argue that some of them aren't potentially from South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malawi. The Biden Administration simply doesn't know who is coming into the US. Also today the state of Florida has the lowest per capita cases of Covid-19 in the nation. www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-reports-lowest-daily-coronavirus-cases-per-capita-in-nationFlorida 6 cases / 100,000 New York 34 cases / 100,000 Michigan 82 cases / 100,000 It appears we have a Blue State problem with the spread of Covid-19.
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