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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 11, 2020 11:23:51 GMT -6
The college presidents, administrations, and coaches may regret their decision if and when the television stations show 5 or 10 players that contract the virus, die, and show sheet covered bodies being wheeled out of the hospitals to funeral homes. I don't have the stats in front of me but I might bet that any the following are more likely to kill a college football player this year:
car accident fall heat illness on field collision heart issue drug overdose/reaction homicide suicide drowning weather event insect bite or sting
But you are right in that, since matters relating to the virus have become embedded in the non-stop, spiteful partisan political nuttiness, the media would make a college football player COVID death the biggest thing since George Floyd because that would be seen as helping their preferred political allies.
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 11, 2020 12:01:33 GMT -6
General, perception is reality
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 11, 2020 12:21:43 GMT -6
I hope the football season goes on with a problem. BUT, remember Murphy's Law, ''If it can go wrong it will.'' Look at what is happening in baseball. A number of the college football players are bound to end up positive. I just turned off the radio listening to a person from Wisconsin ''bragging'' about the number of residents she has seen not wearing masks! There are still too many not taking this pandemic seriously.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 11, 2020 12:57:35 GMT -6
And for now its over till spring
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Post by villagepub on Aug 11, 2020 13:02:42 GMT -6
And for now its over till spring BTN carrying a press conference right now.
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Aug 11, 2020 13:07:54 GMT -6
As I just texted my buddy...WHAT THE FUCK WAS YESTERDAY ALL ABOUT THEN!?
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 11, 2020 13:09:37 GMT -6
The college presidents, administrations, and coaches may regret their decision if and when the television stations show 5 or 10 players that contract the virus, die, and show sheet covered bodies being wheeled out of the hospitals to funeral homes. I don't have the stats in front of me but I might bet that any the following are more likely to kill a college football player this year:
car accident fall heat illness on field collision heart issue drug overdose/reaction homicide suicide drowning weather event insect bite or sting
But you are right in that, since matters relating to the virus have become embedded in the non-stop, spiteful partisan political nuttiness, the media would make a college football player COVID death the biggest thing since George Floyd because that would be seen as helping their preferred political allies.
II am not sure you are right about that list. But in any case it is not parallel to make those comparisons. You do not wear a mask to protect the FB players alone. This is an infectious disease, often asymptomatic to young people. But they can spread the disease.
We have many health and safety steps we already take, and pay for, to prevent some of those items on your list. But, if suddenly any of those causes of death changed in impact, like driving practices changed and the change was going to produce 200K deaths more in this year (conservatively), we would increase law enforcement efforts on traffic violations, or change speed limits or otherwise change the past norms. Very annoying to the safe drivers, I am sure. But not partisan political nuttiness.
If young people are the vector for a lot of the infections you have to cut down on their infection rate, even if you believe infection is harmless to them.
About 20% of the FB players will have some condition that could make the disease severe to them, so harmless is a false assumption anyway.
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Post by villagepub on Aug 11, 2020 13:10:05 GMT -6
As I just texted my buddy...WHAT THE FUCK WAS YESTERDAY ALL ABOUT THEN!? Posturing based on players and coaches plea to play. Officials can now say they deliberated extensively and came up with this decision.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Aug 11, 2020 14:01:31 GMT -6
I doubt they play in the spring, either.
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Aug 11, 2020 14:20:27 GMT -6
As I just texted my buddy...WHAT THE FUCK WAS YESTERDAY ALL ABOUT THEN!? Posturing based on players and coaches plea to play. Officials can now say they deliberated extensively and came up with this decision. My guess is they had their plan in place, voted for it, then people like Nebraska's Frost said both publicly and privately that if Big Ten cancels they'll go somewhere else, so the conference and presidents had to delay while trying to figure that out. Which likely involved telling schools that threatened to leave the conference for the year that they'd lose BTN revenue or something along those lines, to force that small contingent (NE, OSU, PSU) into compliance. Again that's just a guess, but we'll find out.
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Post by cardfan on Aug 11, 2020 14:37:39 GMT -6
The contractual obligations would have been pretty damned hard to overcome. Pac 12 followed suit.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 11, 2020 15:15:55 GMT -6
As I just texted my buddy...WHAT THE FUCK WAS YESTERDAY ALL ABOUT THEN!? Everything in life is a game and is calculated.. You have to posture and make it look like you were really reconsidering
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Post by villagepub on Aug 11, 2020 16:02:28 GMT -6
The contractual obligations would have been pretty damned hard to overcome. Pac 12 followed suit. If a conference does not offer a sport that your school participates in, you have the option to participate in that sport in a conference that does offer it. It's how Missouri wrestles in the MAC (no wrestling in the SEC). Old Dominion does as well. It happens in many sports. If the Big 10 offers no football in the fall, I don't see how they keep a member from going elsewhere to play fall football, even for one year. Nebreska's response will be "offer fall football, and we won't play elsewhere, otherwise, we will."
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Post by chirpchirpcards on Aug 11, 2020 16:25:57 GMT -6
The contractual obligations would have been pretty damned hard to overcome. Pac 12 followed suit. If a conference does not offer a sport that your school participates in, you have the option to participate in that sport in a conference that does offer it. It's how Missouri wrestles in the MAC (no wrestling in the SEC). Old Dominion does as well. It happens in many sports. If the Big 10 offers no football in the fall, I don't see how they keep a member from going elsewhere to play fall football, even for one year. Nebreska's response will be "offer fall football, and we won't play elsewhere, otherwise, we will." A conference not offering a sport, and a conference delaying/cancelling a sport season are two entirely different things. IF the Big Ten decides to play football in the Fall but OSU plays in the Big 12 in the spring, schedules have to be changed to remove OSU. Does OSU get a share of BTN revenue for the spring season, in which they didn't participate? Can OSU participate in both seasons? Does the Big 12 offer OSU a split of TV revenue for just the fall football season? How is that broken out? Will the other Big 12 schools want to give up that cut of the revenue? Is there a contract between the conference and the school that has some sort of "disaster clause" that either prohibits or allows for the exit of a conference season for one year. Conference revenue is likely to aid in the funding of testing and treatment for student athletes. Is the Big Ten going to cover OSU's testing and treatment? Will the Big 12? And once again, will the official Big 12 schools be ok with a university coming in for one season and diverting funds from their conference? It's not as simple as "Alright, you aren't playing fall sports so I'm going to take my ball and find someone who will."
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Post by villagepub on Aug 11, 2020 19:07:28 GMT -6
If a conference does not offer a sport that your school participates in, you have the option to participate in that sport in a conference that does offer it. It's how Missouri wrestles in the MAC (no wrestling in the SEC). Old Dominion does as well. It happens in many sports. If the Big 10 offers no football in the fall, I don't see how they keep a member from going elsewhere to play fall football, even for one year. Nebreska's response will be "offer fall football, and we won't play elsewhere, otherwise, we will." A conference not offering a sport, and a conference delaying/cancelling a sport season are two entirely different things. IF the Big Ten decides to play football in the Fall but OSU plays in the Big 12 in the spring, schedules have to be changed to remove OSU. Does OSU get a share of BTN revenue for the spring season, in which they didn't participate? Can OSU participate in both seasons? Does the Big 12 offer OSU a split of TV revenue for just the fall football season? How is that broken out? Will the other Big 12 schools want to give up that cut of the revenue? Is there a contract between the conference and the school that has some sort of "disaster clause" that either prohibits or allows for the exit of a conference season for one year. Conference revenue is likely to aid in the funding of testing and treatment for student athletes. Is the Big Ten going to cover OSU's testing and treatment? Will the Big 12? And once again, will the official Big 12 schools be ok with a university coming in for one season and diverting funds from their conference? It's not as simple as "Alright, you aren't playing fall sports so I'm going to take my ball and find someone who will." Prove it. Looks like Nebraska, Ohio State and Penn State have already begun discussions with Big 12 and SEC. I'd say the difficulty would be in re-working already existing conference schedules to accommodate the late comers, but if there is enough draw to see Ohio State vs. Alabama or Georgia, or Penn State vs. Oklahoma or Texas, I'm sure they can figure some things out.
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