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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 2, 2021 1:09:17 GMT -6
Now wait a second fuck Akron how dare they talk about our coach that way. How would they know don't they remember our MAC west championships
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Post by sweep on Dec 2, 2021 3:53:04 GMT -6
Apparently there is a difference between a Jimmy Whitford "culture" and one that actually wins. KJ Walton is a complete assclown and always has been.
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 2, 2021 7:35:38 GMT -6
A curious post from the ZipsNation.org site: "As for KJ, I don't blame him. I wouls rather blame Whitford . Groce is a high level coach. Whitford is not. This waa KJs 3rd school. I hope he finds what he's searching for. It's a real shame. But he may have been a toxic force in Florida". Some of this is rather cryptic; that withstanding, I watched some of the Akron vs Duquesne tonight (Wed 01 DEC) game, and for what it's worth, it was a different looking Akron from previous games I've watched. Florida? He means Missouri I assume? I think this guy is "confused" more than "cryptic". You could argue that this case shows Groce does not put up with the level of player BS that Whitford does, but I don't see that you can "blame" Whitford for Walton being a head case. After all, Walton failed to thrive at three different schools....before, during and after Whitford. Four, if you count Florida.
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Post by sweep on Dec 2, 2021 7:41:09 GMT -6
I think he was talking about the Akron's tournament in Florida. At least I hope he was.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Dec 2, 2021 8:14:26 GMT -6
I think he was talking about the Akron's tournament in Florida. At least I hope he was. Yes, Akron played in the Gulf Coast Showcase tournament in Florida. I thought that's what he was talking about.
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Post by CallingBS on Dec 2, 2021 8:26:57 GMT -6
A curious post from the ZipsNation.org site: "As for KJ, I don't blame him. I wouls rather blame Whitford . Groce is a high level coach. Whitford is not. This waa KJs 3rd school. I hope he finds what he's searching for. It's a real shame. But he may have been a toxic force in Florida". Some of this is rather cryptic; that withstanding, I watched some of the Akron vs Duquesne tonight (Wed 01 DEC) game, and for what it's worth, it was a different looking Akron from previous games I've watched. Cryptic to say the least. And while Whitford is definitely not a good coach, I don't understand the reference in this context.
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Post by cardfan on Dec 2, 2021 8:58:54 GMT -6
I think he was talking about the Akron's tournament in Florida. At least I hope he was. Yes, Akron played in the Gulf Coast Showcase tournament in Florida. I thought that's what he was talking about. Same
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Post by officerfarva on Dec 2, 2021 9:19:45 GMT -6
For clarity, I just copied this from the Zips message board: "I like the Ball State message board a lot. They are funny and smart. My post on KJ got some comments over there. They read too much into my mid-game missive. Since they were confused, I will clarify: overthepylon.boards.net/thread/3891/walton-grad-transfer?page=3 1. Zips and KJ played like crap in Florida. They come back from Florida. KJ departs. The team plays exponentially better. So I draw conclusion, that the team gels better without him...at least for one game. 2. Yes, Groce is a high-level coach. He is better than Whitford, even though Whitford won all those MAC West Championships over the 4 directional schools and that shady Toledo squad. For me, Whitford was always one of my least favorite coaches who came to the JAR. 3. I was joking when I blamed Whitford for KJ's behavior, but Groce (unlike Whitford apparently) has a very low level of patience for egomaniacs."
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Post by cardfan on Dec 2, 2021 9:31:54 GMT -6
We (most of us agree) that Whitford just isn't a good enough leader of the BSU basketball program. Mentioning all those "West Division Championships" was a joke about that being Whit's only level of success and apparently some are happy enough with that.
I wanted us to hire Groce way back when he was an assistant at Ohio St. Either we weren't interested or we could afford him. I don't why the powers that were overlooked him.
Yes, Whitford has far too much patience (or just doesn't like to be tough) with guys who are disruptive and selfish.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Dec 2, 2021 9:39:38 GMT -6
For clarity, I just copied this from the Zips message board: "I like the Ball State message board a lot. They are funny and smart." Is there another Ball State message board somewhere that I'm not aware of?
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Post by sweep on Dec 2, 2021 9:44:16 GMT -6
Whitford has a lackadaisical attitude towards everything, including player accountability and discipline. He just isn't wired to be a program builder. What do you expect from a guy who majored in something called Sports Theory ?
K.J. has played for three different programs, and the two good coaches he played for both kicked him to the curb. I do think that says something about Whitford.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Dec 2, 2021 9:57:45 GMT -6
K.J. has played for three different programs and the two good coaches he has played for both kicked him to the curd. That explains that curdling smell coming from our program.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Dec 2, 2021 10:33:58 GMT -6
The fact that someone called us smart and funny amazes me.. Did they not notice our ADD.
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Post by williamtsherman on Dec 2, 2021 11:17:30 GMT -6
His standards for message boards must be even lower than BSU's standards for men's BB coach.
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Dec 2, 2021 11:45:52 GMT -6
The fact that someone called us smart and funny amazes me.. Did they not notice our ADD. They must be blocking 00.
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