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Post by villagepub on Apr 13, 2021 15:41:37 GMT -6
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Post by journalismjoe76 on Apr 14, 2021 6:16:56 GMT -6
And - 5 of the top 6 teams from the MAC are from the West.
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Post by CallingBS on Apr 15, 2021 5:38:47 GMT -6
I will be very surprised if this team meets all of these lofty expectations this coming season. The margin for error is still very slim, and a lot went our way last season. I'd still see a winning record as a success, but it would look like a letdown to most people.
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Apr 16, 2021 17:03:00 GMT -6
A big issue is the competition in the West. I guess it could also be an advantage if teams can get 2 or more conference losses. Our schedule is a good one for testing how tough we really are. It will be difficult getting back to Detroit. But at least we are going in with a team that could do it.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 17, 2021 9:39:15 GMT -6
We could be as good or better than last year and not have the same results record wise. We should have one goal and that should be getting back to a bowl. We need to get off the yo-yo and build a sustainable program. Sure not going back to a MAC championship will be a disappointment but it should not be there are just too many intangibles. The way you build and grow a program is consistency if we go back to 5 wins and then 4 next year and do nothing again for five ten twenty years last year just becomes another memory
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Apr 17, 2021 10:40:08 GMT -6
Repeat or bust.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 17, 2021 11:25:00 GMT -6
Im afraid thats how must feel
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Apr 17, 2021 18:21:41 GMT -6
I agree on getting to a bowl. A lot has to go right to win the West.
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Post by CallingBS on Apr 18, 2021 7:07:26 GMT -6
We could be as good or better than last year and not have the same results record wise. We should have one goal and that should be getting back to a bowl. We need to get off the yo-yo and build a sustainable program. Sure not going back to a MAC championship will be a disappointment but it should not be there are just too many intangibles. The way you build and grow a program is consistency if we go back to 5 wins and then 4 next year and do nothing again for five ten twenty years last year just becomes another memory Historically building a sustainable program in the MAC has proven to be impossible.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Apr 18, 2021 8:23:51 GMT -6
We could be as good or better than last year and not have the same results record wise. We should have one goal and that should be getting back to a bowl. We need to get off the yo-yo and build a sustainable program. Sure not going back to a MAC championship will be a disappointment but it should not be there are just too many intangibles. The way you build and grow a program is consistency if we go back to 5 wins and then 4 next year and do nothing again for five ten twenty years last year just becomes another memory Historically building a sustainable program in the MAC has proven to be impossible. CMU was pretty dominant from 06-09 and NIU was dominant from 10-15. I think competing for 4 or 5 straight championships is probably the longest run you can expect in any conference, outside of Ohio State and Bama.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 18, 2021 10:45:09 GMT -6
We could be as good or better than last year and not have the same results record wise. We should have one goal and that should be getting back to a bowl. We need to get off the yo-yo and build a sustainable program. Sure not going back to a MAC championship will be a disappointment but it should not be there are just too many intangibles. The way you build and grow a program is consistency if we go back to 5 wins and then 4 next year and do nothing again for five ten twenty years last year just becomes another memory Historically building a sustainable program in the MAC has proven to be impossible. Agreed, but I'm not thinking year to year dominance more like Ohio solid consistent most years going to bowl.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 18, 2021 11:01:21 GMT -6
Historically building a sustainable program in the MAC has proven to be impossible. Agreed, but I'm not thinking year to year dominance more like Ohio solid consistent most years going to bowl. I am with Jackson here.
That kind of consistency has to have commitment to hire good coaches at better than average compensation with a budget to retain staff. I do not see either happening here longer term. We have upgraded facilities, but that puts us in the middle of the pack not by itself at the top tier.
You can have a good run with a single good coach who builds for a few years, develops and holds on to a staff better than most since they expect to move up with him. The guy after a few years goes bowling, wins a championship and then moves on. Lembo showed the importance of staff, came with good staff, they proved themselves, left...
MOST MAC programs don't do very well replacing that winning coach, or in retaining staff. By the time he leaves he takes staff with him who are good. Ohio does pretty well. NIU did well for a few years, were investing in FB with their dream of B10, B12 membership. Budget reality makes FB a money pit even at typical MAC funding level. Commitment you are betting on if you think that is a possible here.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 18, 2021 12:22:54 GMT -6
Again I agree with you guys.. Im not even suggesting a 4 or 5 year run of dominance. I'm say a program that wins on average 6-8 games a year.. Your going to have a dud 4-5 win year here and there and hopefully a 9-10 win in there occasionally. That is possible
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Post by cardfan on Apr 18, 2021 13:24:52 GMT -6
Again I agree with you guys.. Im not even suggesting a 4 or 5 year run of dominance. I'm say a program that wins on average 6-8 games a year.. Your going to have a dud 4-5 win year here and there and hopefully a 9-10 win in there occasionally. That is possible That’s really all most of us want. We understand there’s just not going to be a period of like 5 year domination. I just want us to at least be competitive and interesting just about every season.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 18, 2021 13:42:33 GMT -6
Agreed.
In FB, to enjoy a season you want to win those early games in the season at home, beat Miami, and not have it rain or be miserable when we have a night game in November. Unless it is a win that means something.
We can't control all that ever, but most seasons you should win more often than not at home in the early games anyway.
In basketball weather is not such a factor unless you travel to away games, and you can always imagine a win in most home games. Failure there is more painful.
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