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Post by 00hmh on May 20, 2021 8:34:41 GMT -6
Leadership? Get used to players calling the shots. The transfer portal gives them an awful lot of leverage. Recruiting players has increasingly been about serving their ideas about their future. Coaches have much less command and control. Player development involving hard work and change just means they look for someplace else that fits "their game" or is a path to a better showcase if it does occur. So, to be clear, you're on the record saying leadership doesn't matter? And, how about an answer to my simple question. Is he a good leader? Yes or no...I don't need a 700 word equivocation. No, but it's going to be less a factor for many programs. |
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Post by sweep on May 20, 2021 8:52:55 GMT -6
So, to be clear, you're on the record saying leadership doesn't matter? And, how about an answer to my simple question. Is he a good leader? Yes or no...I don't need a 700 word equivocation. No, but it's going to be less a factor for many programs. Why ? |
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Post by cardfan on May 20, 2021 10:07:50 GMT -6
Leaderless programs can prosper?
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Post by 00hmh on May 20, 2021 11:09:51 GMT -6
Of course not. But players are increasingly in charge.
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Post by cardfan on May 20, 2021 11:25:58 GMT -6
sure, but you still need to have a strong figure in the Big Chair to manage all that. The ones that can usually are winners. Whit lets the players dictate and that's almost always a losing proposition. If he can't manage today's players he shouldn't be a head coach. Somehow many other coaches seem to have it figured out. Whitford just does not have a strong personality. He can't persuade or cajole. He doesn't seem to have a feel, a finger on the pulse. And so, his better players go off "looking for something else."
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Post by sweep on May 20, 2021 12:27:49 GMT -6
Of course not. But players are increasingly in charge. Based on ? Give a couple examples of successful programs where the players are in charge. |
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Post by 00hmh on May 20, 2021 12:35:32 GMT -6
That is projection. Players have historically finished here.
The portal is having similar impact elsewhere. Mid majors with good players now have a one and done problem. Big schools will lose players, many they won't miss, we'll tend to miss our departures. Not all, but a coach is now recruiting players he signs for 4;years.
Hard to "lead" when in recruiting mode.
Two players this year were expected to leave. Covid transfer became an option, not normal. Coleman without the portal probably is leaving after 4 years if doing well, it was easier now.
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Post by cardfan on May 20, 2021 12:37:03 GMT -6
Good thing Whitford had so much success prior to Covid and the portal….
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Post by 00hmh on May 20, 2021 12:40:05 GMT -6
Of course not. But players are increasingly in charge. Based on ? Give a couple examples of successful programs where the players are in charge. Not totally in charge anywhere, but more so. Did you notice other MAC schools losing players similar to case of Ish, Coleman and KJ? Even good P5 programs have more transfers this year. Usually the tip programs lose best players to pros. Mid majors will lose them to P5. You're nuts of you think this is trivial factor. |
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Post by sweep on May 20, 2021 12:57:43 GMT -6
Hard to "lead" when in recruiting mode. WTF ? |
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Post by sweep on May 20, 2021 13:03:43 GMT -6
Based on ? Give a couple examples of successful programs where the players are in charge. programs have more transfers this year. Yes, THIS YEAR Mr. Gloom and Doom. Next season the portal is likely to have far fewer than average participants because a lot of players either accelerated or based their transfer on lax restrictions available this season. There is no seismic shift taking place and players aren't suddenly infected with a me first virus. |
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Post by 00hmh on May 20, 2021 14:04:57 GMT -6
programs have more transfers this year. Yes, THIS YEAR Mr. Gloom and Doom. Next season the portal is likely to have far fewer than average participants because a lot of players either accelerated or based their transfer on lax restrictions available this season. There is no seismic shift taking place and players aren't suddenly infected with a me first virus. I don't know about seismic. I do know it is not trivial and inevitably will give coaches fits. Fewer than this year, that I'll buy, but this is tsunami of transfers.
Players will "break out" next year and be free to seek higher level schools. They will do so. Every year this will happen. It isn't just disgruntled players who will transfer. The players at our level are often going to be those who are going great and are valued. This is baked into an AAU DNA and culture.
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Post by williamtsherman on May 20, 2021 14:26:20 GMT -6
Don't you guys remember? Whitford was basically George S. Patton before all this dang COVID/transfer thing.
Heck, do you think he would have been able to almost, but not quite, make the NCAA tourney all those times if he wasn't a strong leader? |
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Post by realitycheck on May 20, 2021 15:49:31 GMT -6
So, to be clear, you're on the record saying leadership doesn't matter? And, how about an answer to my simple question. Is he a good leader? Yes or no...I don't need a 700 word equivocation. No, but it's going to be less a factor for many programs. You speak in riddles. Thanks at least for only a 10 word equivocation. |
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Post by universityjim on May 20, 2021 20:15:06 GMT -6
Don't you guys remember? Whitford was basically George S. Patton before all this dang COVID/transfer thing.
Heck, do you think he would have been able to almost, but not quite, make the NCAA tourney all those times if he wasn't a strong leader? Whitford does have someting in common with William Tecumseh Sherman. The both won big in Atlanta. |
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