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Post by universityjim on Jun 10, 2021 19:18:50 GMT -6
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Post by bsutony on Jun 10, 2021 19:54:18 GMT -6
I'm all for it. It would give more teams a chance late in the year and every once in a while a group of 5 school would get a shot.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 10, 2021 19:58:23 GMT -6
Yep seeds 1-4 would receive a bye this would allow the smaller schools at least a small chance of getting a win. Ncaa has lost a ton of money the last 2 years and this would be a huge money maker. It really goes against our original thoughts of them trying to push us out and to some extent forces inclusion
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 10, 2021 21:55:39 GMT -6
So how often is the MAC champ top 12 or the 6th highest ranked conference champ?
Am I wrong, it looks like one non P5 school gets in, almost always plays and loses a game against the 5th seed.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 10, 2021 22:58:18 GMT -6
So how often is the MAC champ top 12 or the 6th highest ranked conference champ? Am I wrong, it looks like one non P5 school gets in, almost always plays and loses a game against the 5th seed. You are right but it also allows for 6 at large teams.. Now we know the likelihood of getting an at large is slim to none but at least we would have 2 chances instead of none.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 11, 2021 5:23:57 GMT -6
So how often is the MAC champ top 12 or the 6th highest ranked conference champ? Am I wrong, it looks like one non P5 school gets in, almost always plays and loses a game against the 5th seed. You are right but it also allows for 6 at large teams. Now we know the likelihood of getting an at large is slim to none but at least we would have 2 chances instead of none. Yeah, but a lot closer to none for 2 teams. 60 mid majors will have to keep spending a lot of money for that slim chance. Not that much return on investment.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 11, 2021 5:27:29 GMT -6
You are right the NCAA (and P5) get a little richer with payoff for more P5 games with good ratings in December.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jun 11, 2021 21:26:42 GMT -6
Heard another interesting tidbit today say there is an upset in a power 5 conference championship game. Where a team from the weaker side of a division knocks off an Ohio state Bama whatever. They do not get an auto bid. The consensus also believes that about one third of the current 44 bowls will fold but that might have anyway. If this does happen we actually might lose a couple post season opps
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 12, 2021 6:18:28 GMT -6
tOSU or Bama would probably be in anyway as a top 6-10 team. Might well push a top independent ranked lower like ND or BYU out.
The upset scenario far more likely to screw a G5 team from being 6th best conference winner while likely not top 12.
Good point about the minor bowl games which barely survive now possibly suffering from new competition.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 12, 2021 6:27:03 GMT -6
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Post by villagepub on Jun 13, 2021 8:58:07 GMT -6
Notre Dame is mulling over becoming a full member of the ACC. This could force their decision to do so.
You may also see BYU re-align with a conference.
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Post by 00hmh on Jun 13, 2021 9:39:17 GMT -6
Notre Dame is mulling over becoming a full member of the ACC. This could force their decision to do so. You may also see BYU re-align with a conference. Yes. One result of this could be that the P5 actually end up locking in 11 of 12 spots even more tightly. And, that the G5 school would even more likely be in a token 5-12 seed match up.
The additional revenue from these lucrative playoff games would overwhelmingly help P5 schools who would not only get more high value postseason games, but continue to keep the most lucrative bowl games which survive outside the playoffs, and dwarf the added revenue to G5 schools compared to P5. Rich get richer. Occasionally a G5 conference school gets a payday. While probably losing bowl opportunities that now exist outside a playoff.
This playoff payoff should be rather similar to the current bowl rule that gives G5 one big bowl appearance.
If a relative few G5 schools are more successful, that MIGHT give them an opportunity to move to a P5 conference. Assuming the added revenue from conference affiliation would fund competition in that conference. They would no longer likely have have much chance to join the playoffs.
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Post by williamtsherman on Jun 13, 2021 13:01:48 GMT -6
Shocking that the P5 would want to keep the revenue which results solely from the interest in their programs. I can't believe that they don't want to give away their money to money-losing, low-interest, student-fee-supported programs. I guess they are just evil.
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Post by sweep on Jun 14, 2021 6:43:37 GMT -6
Notre Dame is mulling over becoming a full member of the ACC. This could force their decision to do so. You may also see BYU re-align with a conference. Not going to happen, Notre Dame should get a home playoff game every year ( additional revenue), and still get time off prior to the quarterfinals (Bowl games). In fact I think they are a winner in this new scenario.
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Post by sweep on Jun 14, 2021 6:50:20 GMT -6
Notre Dame is mulling over becoming a full member of the ACC. This could force their decision to do so. You may also see BYU re-align with a conference. Yes. One result of this could be that the P5 actually end up locking in 11 of 12 spots even more tightly. And, that the G5 school would even more likely be in a token 5-12 seed match up.
The additional revenue from these lucrative playoff games would overwhelmingly help P5 schools who would not only get more high value postseason games, but continue to keep the most lucrative bowl games which survive outside the playoffs, and dwarf the added revenue to G5 schools compared to P5. Rich get richer. Occasionally a G5 conference school gets a payday. While probably losing bowl opportunities that now exist outside a playoff.
This playoff payoff should be rather similar to the current bowl rule that gives G5 one big bowl appearance.
If a relative few G5 schools are more successful, that MIGHT give them an opportunity to move to a P5 conference. Assuming the added revenue from conference affiliation would fund competition in that conference. They would no longer likely have have much chance to join the playoffs.
This season both Costal Carolina and Cincinnati would have made the playoff and you have a problem with it ? You seem to suffer from some sort of inferiority complex. The road in for a G5 is way easier than it was, yet you still complain.
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