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Post by thebsukid on Aug 4, 2015 10:33:55 GMT -6
Glad to join this board and get back into posting action again.
I must agree with Card Fan....I have seen Teague play a couple of times and should prove to be one of the better stretch 3-4 than we have had in a good while.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 4, 2015 14:49:08 GMT -6
I have not seen Teague play, but we are so desperate for front line production that I can't see having him waste much of any time loitering around the perimeter. Teague was a 31% 3pt shooter in HS. We already have better distance shooters and if we didn't, we could find them easily enough.
Assuming Teague can play effectively inside, using him on the perimeter would be like using a chainsaw to mow your grass, when you have two or three perfectly good lawnmowers in your garage, and you've also got an old dead tree that could fall over on your house at any time.
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 4, 2015 15:02:25 GMT -6
Good to see you back Kid!!
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 4, 2015 18:33:09 GMT -6
BSUO...thanks for letting me know about this site....I wondered what happened to bsufans.com?? Did it just disapear?
Great to see some of the ole boys and girls on this board...like the General...Card Fan...Ruffled...and others..
Go Cards...and hope you are all having a spendid summer. YITB BSU
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 4, 2015 19:25:30 GMT -6
Oh man he found us lol.... I was missing your optimism
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 4, 2015 20:05:40 GMT -6
RMCALHOUN..Glad to see your here man...
CARDINALS....COME OUT AND PLAY...
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 4, 2015 20:16:02 GMT -6
I have not seen Teague play, but we are so desperate for front line production that I can't see having him waste much of any time loitering around the perimeter. Teague was a 31% 3pt shooter in HS. We already have better distance shooters and if we didn't, we could find them easily enough. Assuming Teague can play effectively inside, using him on the perimeter would be like using a chainsaw to mow your grass, when you have two or three perfectly good lawnmowers in your garage, and you've also got an old dead tree that could fall over on your house at any time. I think Teague will not stay inside, and may not start plays by being inside, although he may end more than few near the basket. This team has to score by motion. If so Teague will not loiter anywhere, he might be outside but if he just stands around like he was coached by Billy Taylor he will wash out. If he stays inside he takes the room away from House who is a proven inside scorer. Teague can move, and that is his edge. His inside scoring will come from beating people on the drive, by cuts to the basket, and by beating people to rebounds. Probably NOT by posting up and calling for the ball... unless of course he has a smaller or much slower forward guarding him. AND even then the Cards have to have others in the game who are moving and a threat to get open shots to prevent the double team and prevent the opposing Center from clogging the middle. Hopefully Wells and Calhoun can draw an opposing big guy outside a little. Teague has to be able to shoot outside enough to require somebody to guard him. And if he is maybe he can play with the ball in his hands and be triple threat to drive, shoot, or pass to a cutting team mate. But anyway you cut it House will be first option on plays in the lane and near the basket. Teague may benefit and get some easy chances if his man leaves him to double House. Hey, then he can "loiter" a little midrange, maybe get an easy shot, or he can cut to the basket and either way he can get plenty of points if we need them. It is just fine if he is guarded outside and can't score if he clears the lane for House and our big guards to get to the basket. None of this theory of motion offense works unless we have enough shooting to break a zone and enough shooting against man defense by our bigs to keep the opposing big guys from staying in to guard the rim.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 5, 2015 6:19:16 GMT -6
If a 6-5ish guy, with short arms and modest leaping ability, who averages less that 6rpg is your idea of a "first option" inside scorer, then 17 game losing streaks are exactly the sort of results you might expect. It's not that complicated.
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 5, 2015 7:30:17 GMT -6
I don't know what exactly happened to the old site. There was a note I read that there was a glitch and the administrators were working to reinstate the site and it never happened. That is all I know.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2015 8:03:21 GMT -6
If a 6-5ish guy, with short arms and modest leaping ability, who averages less that 6rpg is your idea of a "first option" inside scorer, then 17 game losing streaks are exactly the sort of results you might expect. It's not that complicated. Funny. It is actually more complicated. Neither his shirt size or his rebounding stats are a good measure of his effectiveness as an inside scorer. The stats show we were a better team when he was on the floor, and actually that he was a quite effective inside scorer last year working almost exclusively in the lane. Besides that our problems leading to the losing streak were not because of House being ineffective inside. Much more to do with defense inside, lack of depth and poor guard play. This team has much more depth, at all positions, and that will be a big difference. Part of the equation will be House doing what he does best. Some of it will be adding a 7 foot rim protector, and adding talent like Weber (not an inside scorer) and of course just having more talent. I am pretty sure that if Whit had a good big post up player inside, we would find a way to use him. But, good teams with good records can run a motion offense with inside scoring from players who do not dominate physically and are not primarily post up players. Bob Knight had a player 6-3 or 6-4 at Texas Tech, Andre Emmit, who was the primary inside scorer for his best teams there. Often the best IU teams had the bigger players playing away from the basket to free the lane. Maybe for the this team the best scoring inside is the lay up.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2015 8:10:06 GMT -6
If we look at the future with Teague, his athleticism and his quickness are much more important on defense, he can be a great player at both ends of the floor. House, who is good on offense, does not have the quickness to guard outside and has to use his muscle and leverage to guard bigger players inside. As it is he does a better job there than shirt size or leaping ability might suggest, but he has limitations.
Wingspan, quickness, and leaping ability could make Teague a very good defensive player. His rebounding stats should be good and I hope he develops quickly and gets the minutes against D! players to be an impact later down the road.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 5, 2015 11:47:31 GMT -6
Yes, obviously the key question is always "How would Bob Knight do it?"
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 5, 2015 13:12:09 GMT -6
Knight would do it by yelling, screaming, hitting, kicking, choking, throwing objects, swearing...and that is what he does to his assistant coaches.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 5, 2015 17:49:42 GMT -6
It is not HOW Bob Knight would do it, but WHAT decisions he would make on the substance, and WHAT he would do to set up his team and get the most out of his talent with any given group.
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Post by williamtsherman on Aug 6, 2015 8:22:50 GMT -6
Well, keep us informed, because there is an insatiable thirst here for the Bob Knight angle on everything to do with 2015 BSU basketball. And, of course all your other IU-related insights.
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