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Post by coastalcard on Mar 8, 2022 5:56:29 GMT -6
All those pesky football backers are making it extremely difficult to eke out a good seat at the stadium on a Tuesday night.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 8, 2022 7:06:41 GMT -6
So we are backing another program that has almost the same interest as bball. Outstanding. This board here is still basketball heavy but we are an older crowd. You guys remember being good but it's almost to the point you have to be lifer or from Muncie to remember success in basketball. So yes the casual Ball State fan and anyone who has graduated in the last 25 years is much more interested in football. What's happened in the last 15 years in football Hoke a couple bowls national ranking, Lebo a couple bowls. Wins over Iu Virginia south Florida, Nue Mac Champ couple bowls, ranked.. All this happening while social media has exploded and every game is watchable. There's a huge difference in interest it's really not even close I think your perceptions on the interest in football are skewed by the people you happen to know/follow. I can assure you that these bowls and such have made absolutely zero impression on the typical BSU alum, and the community in general, as demonstrated by the attendance and revenue picture. Ask anyone you know, who is not one of the tiny number of season ticket holders, to name any bowl BSU has ever participated in. Of course basketball, as it is currently managed by the administration, is also a complete waste of money, but the cost is so much lower there is actually a chance for it to be worthwhile. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Mar 8, 2022 7:13:59 GMT -6
I can assure you that these bowls and such have made absolutely zero impression on the typical BSU alum, and the community in general, as demonstrated by the attendance and revenue picture. Ask anyone you know, who is not one of the tiny number of season ticket holders, to name any bowl BSU has ever participated in. Who cares what those people think, though? By not making the same decisions and having the same priorities as me they have rendered themselves irrelevant. |
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Post by purplecats on Mar 8, 2022 7:23:46 GMT -6
Came here to look at the MAC tourney and see what I could anticipate tonite (Ohio is on a season ending collision course that seems to make this a winnable game) but I had to go back several pages to even find any thoughts.
Bates resigned at Western, I am not sure if our current HC has that in his conscience or ethics. Here's to a good game, but the roar of ambivalence in the room is deafening.
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Post by sweep on Mar 8, 2022 7:49:26 GMT -6
Yeah but if it wasn't for Ball State football I wouldn't have been acquainted with half a dozen complete ass-clowns who eventually wound-up in prison.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 8, 2022 8:04:48 GMT -6
This board here is still basketball heavy but we are an older crowd. You guys remember being good but it's almost to the point you have to be lifer or from Muncie to remember success in basketball. So yes the casual Ball State fan and anyone who has graduated in the last 25 years is much more interested in football. What's happened in the last 15 years in football Hoke a couple bowls national ranking, Lebo a couple bowls. Wins over Iu Virginia south Florida, Nue Mac Champ couple bowls, ranked.. All this happening while social media has exploded and every game is watchable. There's a huge difference in interest it's really not even close I think your perceptions on the interest in football are skewed by the people you happen to know/follow. I can assure you that these bowls and such have made absolutely zero impression on the typical BSU alum, and the community in general, as demonstrated by the attendance and revenue picture. Ask anyone you know, who is not one of the tiny number of season ticket holders, to name any bowl BSU has ever participated in. Of course basketball, as it is currently managed by the administration, is also a complete waste of money, but the cost is so much lower there is actually a chance for it to be worthwhile. Not zero impression. There is evidence bowl games do get noticed and have some impact on prospective student awareness of the Ball State brand, and does generate alumni interest in terms of increased contact with the University by alumni, and mild increase in donor activity.
How significant is a good question.
It's the old story, publicity of any kind is rarely bad publicity. People forget the content but remember the brand name. Another unique feature of the Ronnie Thompson story. He made people really hate BSU. Insult to everyone in state and on campus, disrespect resulting for the athletic department and programs, and injury to national reputation by toxic allegations of racism.
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Post by bsucardinalfan on Mar 8, 2022 10:22:00 GMT -6
Came here to look at the MAC tourney and see what I could anticipate tonite (Ohio is on a season ending collision course that seems to make this a winnable game) but I had to go back several pages to even find any thoughts. Bates resigned at Western, I am not sure if our current HC has that in his conscience or ethics. Here's to a good game, but the roar of ambivalence in the room is deafening. The game is thursday |
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 8, 2022 12:11:09 GMT -6
Came here to look at the MAC tourney and see what I could anticipate tonite (Ohio is on a season ending collision course that seems to make this a winnable game) but I had to go back several pages to even find any thoughts. Bates resigned at Western, I am not sure if our current HC has that in his conscience or ethics. Here's to a good game, but the roar of ambivalence in the room is deafening. If you want to hear deafening, let's do a roll call of who is going to Cleveland? Anyone? |
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Post by sweep on Mar 8, 2022 12:26:53 GMT -6
That's another thing, would someone explain why the MAC believes Cleveland and Detroit are preferrable locations for Championship Games.
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Post by prestonp on Mar 8, 2022 13:15:54 GMT -6
Just to stir the pot, how much did those bowl games cost the athletic department? And to show my age, how much did basketball carry the athletic department after the NCAA's?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 8, 2022 13:44:43 GMT -6
Just to stir the pot, how much did those bowl games cost the athletic department? And to show my age, how much did basketball carry the athletic department after the NCAA's? We lost alot of money and will lose money everytime.. I don't know the answer to the basketball part |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 8, 2022 13:50:04 GMT -6
This board here is still basketball heavy but we are an older crowd. You guys remember being good but it's almost to the point you have to be lifer or from Muncie to remember success in basketball. So yes the casual Ball State fan and anyone who has graduated in the last 25 years is much more interested in football. What's happened in the last 15 years in football Hoke a couple bowls national ranking, Lebo a couple bowls. Wins over Iu Virginia south Florida, Nue Mac Champ couple bowls, ranked.. All this happening while social media has exploded and every game is watchable. There's a huge difference in interest it's really not even close I think your perceptions on the interest in football are skewed by the people you happen to know/follow. I can assure you that these bowls and such have made absolutely zero impression on the typical BSU alum, and the community in general, as demonstrated by the attendance and revenue picture. Ask anyone you know, who is not one of the tiny number of season ticket holders, to name any bowl BSU has ever participated in. Of course basketball, as it is currently managed by the administration, is also a complete waste of money, but the cost is so much lower there is actually a chance for it to be worthwhile. Were just going to have to agree to disagree on that. The people I know are going to go and have went for years that will never change. My post was mainly referring to what I see on social media from random people on average football vs basketball day. There is much more interaction from your typical random social media accounts on a football day than badketball day. It's not even close. As far as buts in the seats your right attendance especially on the weeknights is awful across the board in the mac |
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Post by purplecats on Mar 8, 2022 16:56:55 GMT -6
Came here to look at the MAC tourney and see what I could anticipate tonite (Ohio is on a season ending collision course that seems to make this a winnable game) but I had to go back several pages to even find any thoughts. Bates resigned at Western, I am not sure if our current HC has that in his conscience or ethics. Here's to a good game, but the roar of ambivalence in the room is deafening. The game is thursday Ha I found that out when I went to the Ohio Board. Thanks |
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 8, 2022 17:37:41 GMT -6
This board here is still basketball heavy but we are an older crowd. You guys remember being good but it's almost to the point you have to be lifer or from Muncie to remember success in basketball. So yes the casual Ball State fan and anyone who has graduated in the last 25 years is much more interested in football. What's happened in the last 15 years in football Hoke a couple bowls national ranking, Lebo a couple bowls. Wins over Iu Virginia south Florida, Nue Mac Champ couple bowls, ranked.. All this happening while social media has exploded and every game is watchable. There's a huge difference in interest it's really not even close It's not that BSU football has had more success in those years than BSU basketball. It hasn't. What is true is that society's view of the sports is skewed heavily toward football. The game, primarily the NFL, is the cat's pajamas and the college game benefits from that. Football is easy to like and follow and you don't have to invest a lot. It's the sports version of Short Attention Span Theater. Of course, diehard fans love it, but so do people who don't have a lot of time but don't mind investing a couple of hours a week on a game. Basketball, hockey, especially baseball ... who the hell has time for all those games? So football has wins over IU, Virginia, South Florida. Basketball has wins over Xavier, Butler, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Georgia Tech (not to mention all those wins over Longwood). Yeah, football's gone to bowl games, but how many seasons of .500 or better ball have they actually played in the past 20 years. 6 or 7? Basketball has had more than that, probably 9-10. You get a .500 record in football and you're lauded as some sort of hero. You get a .500 record in basketball and the coach gets fired (usually). If basketball was judged by the same standards and given the same breaks by the administration as football, we'd have 8-9 CBI/CBIT banners hanging in Worthen. Nobody really wants that, but boy if we get to go lose the GoDaddy Bowl, or Camellia Bowl or whatever other pay-to-play game ESPN is touting that year, we're all of a sudden hot stuff. The only thing football has really accomplished in the past 20 or so years that basketball hasn't is the MAC Championship. Even being buoyed by the general popularity of the game, the relative ease of attaining prominence with a bowl game, and the administration's lop-sided support. Imagine what basketball might be able to accomplish if it were provided with the same. |
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Post by prestonp on Mar 8, 2022 22:35:29 GMT -6
This board here is still basketball heavy but we are an older crowd. You guys remember being good but it's almost to the point you have to be lifer or from Muncie to remember success in basketball. So yes the casual Ball State fan and anyone who has graduated in the last 25 years is much more interested in football. What's happened in the last 15 years in football Hoke a couple bowls national ranking, Lebo a couple bowls. Wins over Iu Virginia south Florida, Nue Mac Champ couple bowls, ranked.. All this happening while social media has exploded and every game is watchable. There's a huge difference in interest it's really not even close It's not that BSU football has had more success in those years than BSU basketball. It hasn't. What is true is that society's view of the sports is skewed heavily toward football. The game, primarily the NFL, is the cat's pajamas and the college game benefits from that. Football is easy to like and follow and you don't have to invest a lot. It's the sports version of Short Attention Span Theater. Of course, diehard fans love it, but so do people who don't have a lot of time but don't mind investing a couple of hours a week on a game. Basketball, hockey, especially baseball ... who the hell has time for all those games? So football has wins over IU, Virginia, South Florida. Basketball has wins over Xavier, Butler, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Georgia Tech (not to mention all those wins over Longwood). Yeah, football's gone to bowl games, but how many seasons of .500 or better ball have they actually played in the past 20 years. 6 or 7? Basketball has had more than that, probably 9-10. You get a .500 record in football and you're lauded as some sort of hero. You get a .500 record in basketball and the coach gets fired (usually). If basketball was judged by the same standards and given the same breaks by the administration as football, we'd have 8-9 CBI/CBIT banners hanging in Worthen. Nobody really wants that, but boy if we get to go lose the GoDaddy Bowl, or Camellia Bowl or whatever other pay-to-play game ESPN is touting that year, we're all of a sudden hot stuff. The only thing football has really accomplished in the past 20 or so years that basketball hasn't is the MAC Championship. Even being buoyed by the general popularity of the game, the relative ease of attaining prominence with a bowl game, and the administration's lop-sided support. Imagine what basketball might be able to accomplish if it were provided with the same. Amen brother! |
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