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Post by bsufan101 on Mar 24, 2022 8:59:30 GMT -6
Bingo! Since hearing his name I’ve talked myself into it. His record alone is very good. Mearns wouldn’t look at him if he had issues at NKU. Good and maybe we can hire Jim Crews as an assistant. You guys are out of your minds. " Mearns wouldn’t look at him if he had issues at NKU."........So Mearns should just disregard what happened at UC ? Didn’t say he should disregard… Based on his past connection with Mearns he’s being considered. Had Mearns experienced similar at NKU he wouldn’t be involved. From what I’ve heard Lewis is above him anyway. |
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Post by cardfan on Mar 24, 2022 9:00:14 GMT -6
Yeah but Majerus wasn't accused of mistreating people ? This is a different situation. I realize that things are different today. No question about it. Maybe I have an inherent bias for guys that win. It is a risk regardless of the path we choose. True. Unfortunately in this day and age, risk is something that has to be measured very carefully. We know BSU is risk averse, (hence, coaches like Taylor and Whitford) and we know BSU is PR and image conscious, and very much into mental health and all that affects it. So, what kind of message would it send to take on Brannen, who IS a helluva coach, but had the wheels come totally off at UC, for MANY reasons? |
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Post by cardfan on Mar 24, 2022 9:00:30 GMT -6
He does, but he's had zero coaching experience. He's tried to get on BSU staff's before and got nowhere. (can we take a chance on Paris giving a kid a university phone card...... ;-) ) You have to question whether coaching is a long term goal for him. If not it's a pay cut and huge change in lifestyle. He seems very satisfied with what he is doing and genuinely enjoys it. Accurate. |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 24, 2022 9:07:36 GMT -6
I'm in that boat. I just find the whole mess at UC, whether it was all him or not, to be problematic. I hear you and it is nice having a civil discussion. I look at it this way, the guy we hired from Milwaukee was a risk and he set off the greatest 12 year run in our history. Not sure how much risk with Majerus? He was considered an upgrade by many people and by far the best candidate. He was highly regarded as a coach and was not associated with anything like the negative press with Brannen.
We actually competed for his services and liked him enough to find some extra money in the negotiation. The plus with Brannen may be that he is on the rebound big time and may take a job for the salary we offer.
The actual risk we had with Majerus was more what actually happened, we had a high risk of success! And the risk was losing him quickly...because we would/could not support him and offer him the future that was there elsewhere.
His coaching props and connections gave him high impact immediately, and his real contribution other than McCurdy and Kidd of course, was bringing Hunsaker on board. Brannen has HC experience, but I don't see players or assistant coaches eager to tie their future with his.
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Post by sweep on Mar 24, 2022 9:10:01 GMT -6
Good and maybe we can hire Jim Crews as an assistant. You guys are out of your minds. " Mearns wouldn’t look at him if he had issues at NKU."........So Mearns should just disregard what happened at UC ? Didn’t say he should disregard… Based on his past connection with Mearns he’s being considered. Had Mearns experienced similar at NKU he wouldn’t be involved. From what I’ve heard Lewis is above him anyway. How do you know Brannen is even on our radar ? |
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Post by coastalcard on Mar 24, 2022 9:12:13 GMT -6
I hear you and it is nice having a civil discussion. I look at it this way, the guy we hired from Milwaukee was a risk and he set off the greatest 12 year run in our history. Not sure how much risk with Majerus? He was considered an upgrade by many people and by far the best candidate. He was highly regarded as a coach and was not associated with anything like the negative press with Brannen.
We actually competed for his services and liked him enough to find some extra money in the negotiation. The plus with Brannen may be that he is on the rebound big time and may take a job for the salary we offer.
The actual risk we had with Majerus was more what actually happened, we had a high risk of success! And the risk was losing him quickly...because we would/could not support him and offer him the future that was there elsewhere.
His coaching props and connections gave him high impact immediately, and his real contribution other than McCurdy and Kidd of course, was bringing Hunsaker on board. Brannen has HC experience, but I don't see players or assistant coaches eager to tie their future with his.
True. The late 80’s was a galaxy far far away from BSU 2022 |
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Post by sweep on Mar 24, 2022 9:13:53 GMT -6
I hear you and it is nice having a civil discussion. I look at it this way, the guy we hired from Milwaukee was a risk and he set off the greatest 12 year run in our history. The plus with Brannen may be that he is on the rebound big time and may take a job for the salary we offer.
Gee ya think....................That would be like $400,000 a year falling out of the sky. |
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Post by cardfan on Mar 24, 2022 9:47:27 GMT -6
I hear you and it is nice having a civil discussion. I look at it this way, the guy we hired from Milwaukee was a risk and he set off the greatest 12 year run in our history. Not sure how much risk with Majerus? He was considered an upgrade by many people and by far the best candidate. He was highly regarded as a coach and was not associated with anything like the negative press with Brannen.
We actually competed for his services and liked him enough to find some extra money in the negotiation. The plus with Brannen may be that he is on the rebound big time and may take a job for the salary we offer.
The actual risk we had with Majerus was more what actually happened, we had a high risk of success! And the risk was losing him quickly...because we would/could not support him and offer him the future that was there elsewhere.
His coaching props and connections gave him high impact immediately, and his real contribution other than McCurdy and Kidd of course, was bringing Hunsaker on board. Brannen has HC experience, but I don't see players or assistant coaches eager to tie their future with his.
I know from someone who was in the know that Majerus was blunt with Purvis and the committee "if you want to win you'll have to cut some corners." Rick wasn't necessarily a rule breaker, but he was certainly a rule bender, and he felt much of the rule book was ridiculous. He knew that to get winning players to BSU the administration would have to be willing to loosen up a bit. Which, they did. Majerus always called Purvis "Nervous Purvis" because of the line he was tip toeing. Unfortunately Hunsaker got caught and took the fall. (I heard it was a jilted youth coach or parent who turned BSU in. Can't remember exactly) |
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 24, 2022 10:16:46 GMT -6
We were loose enough...Rick was justifiably nervous about Purvis, and was just preparing the ground for pushing. Purvis was nervous a little too much, no doubt.
This was about the end of the time for a lot of the rule breaking, a transition decade on some things.
If there was a drawback to Rick it's that the combination of too nervous AD and not nervous enough Rick both needed to change.
That in the end cost us Hunsaker by setting a tone just a little too loose and getting away with it...
It's a different world now. Purvis would be a little too loose now.
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Post by bsutrack on Mar 24, 2022 11:54:12 GMT -6
Yeah but Majerus wasn't accused of mistreating people ? This is a different situation. I realize that things are different today. No question about it. Maybe I have an inherent bias for guys that win. It is a risk regardless of the path we choose. Hasn't Sparks been quoted as wanting to win and be pushed? Could be a selling point for keeping Sparks and Sellers on-board. |
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Post by UHaveCardinalNv on Mar 24, 2022 12:56:09 GMT -6
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Post by bsufan101 on Mar 24, 2022 13:11:42 GMT -6
Didn’t say he should disregard… Based on his past connection with Mearns he’s being considered. Had Mearns experienced similar at NKU he wouldn’t be involved. From what I’ve heard Lewis is above him anyway. How do you know Brannen is even on our radar ? Reference calls were being made and his name was discussed. |
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 24, 2022 19:01:15 GMT -6
At one point in that Brannen article it talks about players' health being put a risk.
At another point, it says training staff was on hand to monitor the situation, players were allow adequate water, that they were all wearing heart monitors, and that they were told they could sit down to rest.
Sounds like a disciplinarian who became a scapegoat.
I'd be more concerned about his ability to recruit today's kids with a disciplinarian's reputation than I would be about him mistreating kids.
And I just wouldn't worry about the media.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 24, 2022 19:11:04 GMT -6
University President and AD will worry.
They don't want to talk about that everywhere they go. It will keep coming back at them as long as he is coaching.
The recruiting consequence probably long lived.
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Post by 87grad on Mar 25, 2022 7:24:16 GMT -6
per Zaleski just a few minutes ago, Michael Lewis seems to be the favorite. To be honest, I don't think Lewis is even in the mix. That didn't age well. |
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