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Post by bsu0 on Aug 12, 2022 8:44:13 GMT -6
If what most are saying is true (4-5 wins) the logical starter would be a QB looking towards the future. I do not have any inside knowledge just a guess. I would hope that no matter who the starter is some young bloods would get some serious time under center in preparation for coming seasons. I would not make any rash decisions are made solely on the the UT game...it could get ugly and no one would be at fault. If it is Paddock you have to give him at least a couple more contests before another starter comes in.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 12, 2022 9:59:07 GMT -6
If what most are saying is true (4-5 wins) the logical starter would be a QB looking towards the future. I do not have any inside knowledge just a guess. I would hope that no matter who the starter is some young bloods would get some serious time under center in preparation for coming seasons. I would not make any rash decisions are made solely on the the UT game...it could get ugly and no one would be at fault. If it is Paddock you have to give him at least a couple more contests before another starter comes in. It makes sense to start a vet against UT, not just to get the best play but you'd like a young QB to not be shell shocked after his first start. How soon you switch to a young guy depends on whether this is Paddock struggling or it's the whole team struggling.
I think the pessimism we have about the season record go partly to the strength of the West MAC and partly to other positions. I doubt either young QB is a big upgrade or they would be getting more reps with the 1's already.
Once we get into the MAC where anything can happen Neu has too much pressure to win games to look to far ahead, and will make a change only if it really means at least as good a chance to bring home wins. Paddock may be marginally better in those games where marginally better makes the difference.
I am not that optimistic about the season, but have some hope we might win a game or two we should not, in which case 6 wins is a possibility and bowl game, however meaningless, would be a good thing. Not just for Neu's job security but for team development. Get everything going the right way and then having a QB battle next year to take over a team that had some success might be a best case scenario.
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Post by sdacardinal on Aug 12, 2022 11:41:24 GMT -6
The only reference that I have about Paddock is he looked good in the waning moments of the Penn State game against their second stringers.
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Post by BSUMike on Aug 12, 2022 13:12:00 GMT -6
I haven’t seen enough of Paddock to make a declarative statement . I will go into the season optimistic and hopeful. From the little I’ve seen, he has the arm strength that Plitt lacked, but may need to work on the accuracy. Tennessee will obviously be ugly, but we’ll see what he can do against similar competition in game 2. Hopefully we can lean on the run game at least early in the season - we know that we have a couple talented backs.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 12, 2022 17:23:05 GMT -6
Thats the thing no one including the coaches know what paddock is going to do. You can look great in practice and suck in a game or you can be ok in practice and lights out in a game. As far as beating out plitt I get it and I agree that plitt was never a star especially last year but whats he doing right now.. Throwing passes in an nfl training camp. He was not as bad as we sometimes have made him out to be
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Post by chupacabra on Aug 13, 2022 15:02:48 GMT -6
Thats the thing no one including the coaches know what paddock is going to do. You can look great in practice and suck in a game or you can be ok in practice and lights out in a game. As far as beating out plitt I get it and I agree that plitt was never a star especially last year but whats he doing right now.. Throwing passes in an nfl training camp. He was not as bad as we sometimes have made him out to be [ Plitt… Look at yesterday’s game stats… 6-6 73 yards 1 TD. Let’s hope he makes the squad. Good to see him show up! |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 13, 2022 21:43:32 GMT -6
Thats the thing no one including the coaches know what paddock is going to do. You can look great in practice and suck in a game or you can be ok in practice and lights out in a game. As far as beating out plitt I get it and I agree that plitt was never a star especially last year but whats he doing right now.. Throwing passes in an nfl training camp. He was not as bad as we sometimes have made him out to be [ Plitt… Look at yesterday’s game stats… 6-6 73 yards 1 TD. Let’s hope he makes the squad. Good to see him show up! He played well I doubt it means much but I know it was a dream come true for him. Im really happy for him |
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 14, 2022 10:04:01 GMT -6
I certainly harbor no ill will towards Paddock. If he is better than the young guns then play him...but...I would not like to see Paddock get the majority of snaps in the games if we end up with 3/4 wins. We need the guys on the bench to get game experience in preparation for the fall of 2023. If we have a 3/4 win season do you really think that Neu might be fired for rebuilding? If that would happen IMHO it would be EXTREMELY sort sighted. I feel Coach Neu has done a more than an good job given what he and his staff started with several years ago. In a place like the MAC and Muncie Ball State is not going to be a bowl team annually. What would firing him do to us other than starting over once again. Please do not do that to us! Give the guy a chance to bring in another crew with some talent and build another winner. A year ago we finished with a bowl win and a top 25 ranking. What else do the nay sayers want? With all the unchartered water the mid-majors will go through the next few years I say ''Dance with who brung ya''.
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Post by david75bsu on Aug 14, 2022 10:47:39 GMT -6
I certainly harbor no ill will towards Paddock. If he is better than the young guns then play him...but...I would not like to see Paddock get the majority of snaps in the games if we end up with 3/4 wins. We need the guys on the bench to get game experience in preparation for the fall of 2023. If we have a 3/4 win season do you really think that Neu might be fired for rebuilding? If that would happen IMHO it would be EXTREMELY sort sighted. I feel Coach Neu has done a more than an good job given what he and his staff started with several years ago. In a place like the MAC and Muncie Ball State is not going to be a bowl team annually. What would firing him do to us other than starting over once again. Please do not do that to us! Give the guy a chance to bring in another crew with some talent and build another winner. A year ago we finished with a bowl win and a top 25 ranking. What else do the nay sayers want? With all the unchartered water the mid-majors will go through the next few years I say ''Dance with who brung ya''. I like Neu as well. However, he has not done a super tremendous job - look at his overall win/loss record, it is not great. Loved the MAC Championship, even if it was in a year when COVID hit teams hard. I recognize that mid-majors are in unchartered waters, but all mid-majors are in the same boat, can’t be used as an excuse when 90% of your games are against mid-majors. That being said, I really like Neu and would not necessarily want a change. I just want more out of the product he puts on the field. He lost some very good talent, not to the Power Five schools, but to other MAC schools this year- why? IMO, there is no excuse for us not to win half or better of our games! The MAC is a bottom feeder in the Group of Five conferences, we and the MAC should do better!!! |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 14, 2022 12:44:55 GMT -6
None of the above is wrong... I also agreec if we are looking at 3 4 win season with paddock then just play kelly and or Blazek. Give kelly 4 games Blazek 4 games and see what we have
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Post by redfeather on Aug 14, 2022 13:01:06 GMT -6
Thats the thing no one including the coaches know what paddock is going to do. You can look great in practice and suck in a game or you can be ok in practice and lights out in a game. As far as beating out plitt I get it and I agree that plitt was never a star especially last year but whats he doing right now.. Throwing passes in an nfl training camp. He was not as bad as we sometimes have made him out to be Maybe an odd comment or question on my part and a little off topic, but who here on our fan board think Plitt and Person were cut from the same cloth as they say? Yeah I know two different spots but both leaders on their perspective teams and both had the “It” factor, swag, cockiness, convinced to get to where they were and have some level of success during their college years and post college. Not sure I’m seeing or hearing any of that with the current team and I mean both Bb and FB. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 14, 2022 13:36:59 GMT -6
They both have that bulldog mentality. As far as somrone having it now. We dont know cause we have next no coverage at all. We will learn about paddock, Steele uzindinma,jackson and coll this year because thats who general will be given weekly access too
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Post by lmills72 on Aug 14, 2022 16:14:04 GMT -6
Like a lot of you guys, if we're just going to see a few wins this season, I would certainly like to get a taste of what some of the young talent can do.
But, really, as a coach how do you tell a kid like Paddock (who has more than one year of eligibility remaining), that even though he's better than everyone else at his position right now, you're going to start a player who's not as good as he is because you think the other player has more potential? I'm sure coaches manage to do this in some way but it seems like a dangerous game to play.
In general, I say start the best player, or at least the player who gives you the best chance to win (that may not always be the same player), and let the chips fall where they may.
I think Neu's already probably failed on this a couple of times at the QB position in his short time at BSU. He probably should have moved from Neal to Plitt faster than he did, and he probably should have given Paddock a little run last year. I know Plitt is in an NFL camp now but he didn't light the world on fire last year; he was probably in the bottom of of MAC QBs in most statistical categories.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 14, 2022 16:36:57 GMT -6
Cf and I were just talking about neu and loyality and agreed at certain times he has been too loyal. You cant not give paddock his shot unless Kelly or Blazek just blow him away and that does not appear to have happened. We have to hope and should want paddock to succeed. Now if he struggles Id love to see the hook come quicker than it has in the past. I also agree that Paddock may not have the highest upside of the Qbs but he probably gives us the best shot at winning right now
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Post by rgmillikan on Aug 18, 2022 18:22:17 GMT -6
I certainly harbor no ill will towards Paddock. If he is better than the young guns then play him...but...I would not like to see Paddock get the majority of snaps in the games if we end up with 3/4 wins. We need the guys on the bench to get game experience in preparation for the fall of 2023. If we have a 3/4 win season do you really think that Neu might be fired for rebuilding? If that would happen IMHO it would be EXTREMELY sort sighted. I feel Coach Neu has done a more than an good job given what he and his staff started with several years ago. In a place like the MAC and Muncie Ball State is not going to be a bowl team annually. What would firing him do to us other than starting over once again. Please do not do that to us! Give the guy a chance to bring in another crew with some talent and build another winner. A year ago we finished with a bowl win and a top 25 ranking. What else do the nay sayers want? With all the unchartered water the mid-majors will go through the next few years I say ''Dance with who brung ya''. Doubt Neu gets fired with 3 yr left on his deal after 2022. This athletic department proved with how Whitford was handled that it doesn't like messing with huge buyouts. That said for Neu to get a 4th contract he has to prove within at most 3 yr, earliest 2 yr that 2020 wasn't a complete fluke of a short season. |
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