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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 18, 2023 7:12:10 GMT -6
We see clearly how that terrible, awful, no-good transfer portal has completely and forever wrecked any chance for mid/low major teams to compete with power conference teams.
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Post by steve on Mar 18, 2023 7:20:47 GMT -6
FDU’s record last year was 4-22..
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 18, 2023 7:40:50 GMT -6
i think fdu has a newcoach who had 4 players follow him from a d2 school. Maybe not a great portal example. I do agree with you in general though
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Mar 18, 2023 8:05:20 GMT -6
I think the formula is to build with gym rats who are very athletic and coachable. No superstars that are automatic portal material. Mix in some one year portal guys. As Purdue shows, not absolutely required to have to tower.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 18, 2023 8:20:35 GMT -6
We see clearly how that terrible, awful, no-good transfer portal has completely and forever wrecked any chance for mid/low major teams to compete with power conference teams. Yeah, if you can get the conference champ eliminated on a technicality you have a great chance... Obviously Purdue made the critical mistake of competing with power conference teams dominantly for 20 games. Depending on defining "compete" as winning one game the Sherman Plan is really convincing.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 18, 2023 9:54:58 GMT -6
Despite all the hysterical hand wringing by people who simply can't get used to something different from what they've always known, the transfer portal has not fundamentally changed the relationship between low/mid majors and power conferences. Yes, it has shifted the advantage further towards the power conferences to a degree but has not fundamentally changed things. The better-funded, larger fanbase, better media covered power teams always have and always will have an advantage in attracting talent, it's just that they now use this advantage more transparently and honestly.
Where the tourney is concerned, the Sherman Plan for low/mid majors is as follows: build the best team you can given the environment you have to work in. Get into the tourney by winning your conference (where all teams are similarly disadvantaged) then hope for the unlikely upset (which is not entirely unrealistic) or just enjoy the ride if it doesn't happen.
Members of the board and the fanbase in general can either get on board with this plan or (it's up to each individual) follow the alternative plan of whining and crying about the portal/NIL and pining for some imaginary past golden age situation that never actually existed.
Personally I prefer the new situation with above-the table-payments to players over the despicably dishonest and hypocritical previous situation where power schools benefitted from a sleazy, underhanded, shoe-company-dominated recruiting system what was studiously ignored and abetted by the corrupt, but very self-righteous, NCAA bureaucrats. I particularly like that it spreads some money down to the level of player that would not attract shoe company attention, and thus greatly expands the number of players getting something.
I have no inside knowledge but I trust that Lewis is not sitting around crying big tears over losing Sparks and lamenting his NIL disadvantage compared to power teams. Rather, I suspect he recognizes that he needs only to compete with the other MAC coaches who have the EXACT same disadvantages he does. I would ask that any of you whiners who potentially have any level of access to Lewis stay away from him so as not to infect him with your pathetic loser attitudes.
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Post by purplecats on Mar 18, 2023 10:09:17 GMT -6
We need to schedule 2-4 tough non conference opponents even if they won’t give us 2 for 1. Kent State played at Houston and Gonzaga this year! Makes you better for the conference run in my opinion Totally agree. They also played College of Charleston. Prepares you for March. Agreed there. If you want to be the best you got to play the best. At our level, that means if you want to be ready for March you got to get out of your house and figure out how to run with the big dogs. No one here forgets Hawaii or steps along the way that made teams ready for the season. Now that the tourney is how teams are measured, recruit talent, coach and develop them, get them games to test them and go win games in Cleveland.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 18, 2023 11:08:15 GMT -6
Personally I prefer the new situation with above-the table-payments to players over the despicably dishonest and hypocritical previous situation where power schools benefitted from a sleazy, underhanded, shoe-company-dominated recruiting system what was studiously ignored and abetted by the corrupt, but very self-righteous, NCAA bureaucrats. I particularly like that it spreads some money down to the level of player that would not attract shoe company attention, and thus greatly expands the number of players getting something. No doubt it helps more athletes. It helps a very few VERY much. Whether that plus offsets the way it changes things for the worse we'll see.
I agree Lewis will be out there busting his ass to make the best of it.
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Post by 00hmh on Mar 18, 2023 11:13:53 GMT -6
Members of the board and the fanbase in general can either get on board with this plan or (it's up to each individual) follow the alternative plan of whining and crying about the portal/NIL and pining for some imaginary past golden age situation that never actually existed. I agree about not pining for some imaginary past golden age.
Which means also forgetting about the 90's at BSU where a coach could find gems and keep them and we could afford for an extra 50K to get near great coaches on the cheap. It wasn't an imaginary golden age entirely but it is sadly not able to be replicated either.
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Post by lmills72 on Mar 18, 2023 11:36:06 GMT -6
It's fine to say you only have to compete with those in your conference if you're willing to accept that only one team from your conference is ever going to be worthy of playing in the big season-ending tournament.
If that's all you want, but heaven forbid one of the "minor" leagues should have 2 or 3 coaches/teams with post-season goals. Nope, those extra spots are reserved for the big boys. Just stay in your place, little guys, and don't expect more than the scraps we throw you.
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Post by williamtsherman on Mar 18, 2023 12:03:34 GMT -6
It's fine to say you only have to compete with those in your conference if you're willing to accept that only one team from your conference is ever going to be worthy of playing in the big season-ending tournament. If that's all you want, but heaven forbid one of the "minor" leagues should have 2 or 3 coaches/teams with post-season goals. Nope, those extra spots are reserved for the big boys. Just stay in your place, little guys, and don't expect more than the scraps we throw you. I guess I do accept it. That's usually the best thing to do with a fact. But how many mac teams EVER got at large bids? That's always been extremely rare, so even if the possibility is completely eliminated, very little is lost. Is it true that, so far, there are less mid-major at large teams and less upsets than before the portal? I mean, it seems logical to expect but is it happening?
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Post by cbcjanney on Mar 20, 2023 15:59:12 GMT -6
It's fine to say you only have to compete with those in your conference if you're willing to accept that only one team from your conference is ever going to be worthy of playing in the big season-ending tournament. If that's all you want, but heaven forbid one of the "minor" leagues should have 2 or 3 coaches/teams with post-season goals. Nope, those extra spots are reserved for the big boys. Just stay in your place, little guys, and don't expect more than the scraps we throw you. I guess I do accept it. That's usually the best thing to do with a fact. But how many mac teams EVER got at large bids? That's always been extremely rare, so even if the possibility is completely eliminated, very little is lost. Is it true that, so far, there are less mid-major at large teams and less upsets than before the portal? I mean, it seems logical to expect but is it happening? Five times since 1980 the MAC has received an at-large bid - 1985, 1986, 1995, 1998, & 1999. None in the last 24 years. There were several more years that the conference regular season champion would likely have received an at-large bid had they not also won the MAC tourney, but the MAC had a string of quite a few years where the regular season champ did win the tourney while other conferences experienced conference tourney upsets and landed more bids. I believe WMU in 1998 (got in over us) was the only MAC at-large bid which was not a regular season champion. All five times the MAC had an at-large team was when the full field was 64 teams, thus the expansion to 68 hasn't helped us at all, though the expansion in 1985 from 48 to 64 teams did help us get more teams in. For what would be considered one-bid leagues (those typically outside the top 10 conferences), I do believe the MAC has performed in the top 3 if not the absolute best - with 10 NCAA wins since 2000 and 20 wins since 1995...five times a MAC team has reached the sweet 16.
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