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Post by dmbdan41 on Mar 8, 2016 16:29:03 GMT -6
This season was fun and it was good to finally see some W's and be disappointed in mid-March as opposed to mid-December for the first time in a while. That being said there are things that have to happen next season in my mind in order to make sure this program continues moving forward.
1) A MUCH tougher schedule next season. I'd like to see our OOC-SOS somewhere between 75-150 if we can manage it. I would like to see home & home arrangements made, but we've gotta get some higher-level schools on the schedule, Minnesota, Vanderbilt, Rutgers, Utah, Oregon State, etc. Not necessarily top level competition like UK, IU, Duke, UNC but teams that are going to be contending for a tournament bid.
2) Improved decision-making. Part of this will come with having a true PG (assuming Persons is that guy) but too many possessions this year ended with an arrant pass aimed for god knows where. This off-season I'd like to see Whit work with these guys on how to deal with pressure and get the ball to where it's supposed to go. Cut the turnovers in half and that's 6 extra posessions a game you're getting a look at the bucket.
3) Semifinals of the MAC tournament. The team was one game away from a bye this year and did not finish strong. For true improvement to be shown, there must be improvement at the end of the season, and for me that means winning at least 1 tournament game, or 2 if we're unable to get a bye. Another year of 1 and done in the tournament will tell me more about this coaching staff than I think any of us want to know.
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Post by thebsukid on Mar 8, 2016 19:38:46 GMT -6
MAC Championship
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Post by universityjim on Mar 8, 2016 22:14:13 GMT -6
When Weber heaves up a 3 from five feet behind the line and 23 seconds on the shot clock I don't think he's lacking confidence. Is that confidence or just heaving it up? If it goes in it is confidence. If it doesn't it is just heaving it up.
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Post by rgmillikan on Mar 9, 2016 4:27:18 GMT -6
This season was fun and it was good to finally see some W's and be disappointed in mid-March as opposed to mid-December for the first time in a while. That being said there are things that have to happen next season in my mind in order to make sure this program continues moving forward. 1) A MUCH tougher schedule next season. I'd like to see our OOC-SOS somewhere between 75-150 if we can manage it. I would like to see home & home arrangements made, but we've gotta get some higher-level schools on the schedule, Minnesota, Vanderbilt, Rutgers, Utah, Oregon State, etc. Not necessarily top level competition like UK, IU, Duke, UNC but teams that are going to be contending for a tournament bid. 2) Improved decision-making. Part of this will come with having a true PG (assuming Persons is that guy) but too many possessions this year ended with an arrant pass aimed for god knows where. This off-season I'd like to see Whit work with these guys on how to deal with pressure and get the ball to where it's supposed to go. Cut the turnovers in half and that's 6 extra posessions a game you're getting a look at the bucket. 3) Semifinals of the MAC tournament. The team was one game away from a bye this year and did not finish strong. For true improvement to be shown, there must be improvement at the end of the season, and for me that means winning at least 1 tournament game, or 2 if we're unable to get a bye. Another year of 1 and done in the tournament will tell me more about this coaching staff than I think any of us want to know. I think in general expanding on #2 I would add an ability to score relatively consistently if the outside shots aren't falling. Good items of note.
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 9, 2016 6:52:59 GMT -6
Be careful with your expectations. I saw this with the football program after one outstanding season. We won a bunch of games this year with the worst schedule in the history of the school. The true ''colors'' of this team were seen at the end of the season. If they go 2-2 the last four games they win the west. They go 1-3 and still tie. Then they play a horrible game by giving up easy baskets, playing stupid strategy, and missing free throws. Sorry guys but this team needs to learn how to win games that mean something and you don't do that playing the OOC schedule we did. The last five games meant something and they won ONE. We have a couple of players that sat out this year that could help turn this around but nothing is etched in stone. In order for us to improve we need those who sat out to contribute big time and for the returning players to improve their overall games. The coaching staff needs to work to improve their Xs and Os to get the most out of their talent. There is a sh@t pot full of HARD work (and maybe some luck) before you can expect a serious contender for a MAC title, a NIT, or NCAA bid.
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Post by sag on Mar 9, 2016 9:24:01 GMT -6
I totally get the disappointment about the end of the conference season. That sucked. I think, though, that the arrow on Whitford is still up. SOS of non-conference: that's often going to be an issue with mid-majors, right. IUPUI and Valpo were legitimate non-con wins. BSU should play those teams. But unless you sacrifice your future home schedules-you're not going to get even deal from high majors, and that's the sacrifice you're going to make IF a high major is willing-and you want to help your team develop, your non-conference is understandably going to look like this some years. It was a good year for them to have this schedule.
By your logic, if they would have played harder teams earlier they would have won more later, so then that cancels out your early losses with later wins and the record remains the same, no? This was an up year. They are improving. Moses could become that championship caliber big man as he gains strength and experience; and Teague, Persons, and Mallers are high quality recruits for the MAC, who obviously have a lot to prove still.
But until Whitford's arrow is not up, I think many of your expectations are as outlandish of some of those contested 18 footers Moses was taking.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 9:38:37 GMT -6
"IUPUI and Valpo were legitimate non-con wins."
Valpo yes, IUPUI stinks............
" I think, though, that the arrow on Whitford is still up."
So then you would give him a three year extension.
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Post by sag on Mar 9, 2016 9:48:07 GMT -6
Well, they beat FW twice and lost in OT to Marquette, but I'm just saying that BSU SHOULD play them non-con.
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Post by sag on Mar 9, 2016 9:53:23 GMT -6
Sandy has to think about that. It's necessary to promote good will with your staff and if Sandy sees the arrow as being up as I do and likes what he sees down the road, then, yes, an extension would be a way to promote that good will. Otherwise, there's the risk of having to come to the table the following year while others are possibly there too and he hadn't done what he could to show commitment when he could have. Maybe he could wait until late December or January. I don't really know how those things work.
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Post by bsu0 on Mar 9, 2016 10:01:25 GMT -6
I have had this discussion with countless BSU fans. No one ever gets better by playing inferior teams. Your players don't learn anything unless they get beat and realize they are not ''all that''. That being said, there is nothing wrong early in the season to play a few ''warm ups'' or teams you should beat to see how you play and who can play. I like to see other D-1 teams on the schedule that are competitive and will test us. These teams don't have to be and should not be the Dukes and North Carolinas of the basketball world...On another note, What is so ''outlandish'' about the returning players working hard along with the staff trying to improve. In the end our out of conference record doesn't mean much because our entry to the NCAA tournament is determined by who wins the post season tournament. It has been a while since an at large bid has been awarded to the MAC. Beating the IU Kokomos of the world does us no good in getting a NCAA bid or for that matter a NIT bid either. I stand by what I wrote and I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
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Post by realitycheck on Mar 9, 2016 10:03:31 GMT -6
Talking about extension is ludicrous at this point. We've done nothing to warrant that. Jumping from 5 to 7 to 19 wins is an accomplishment. Losing 4 of 5 down the stretch when it really matters and another first round exit in the MAC Tourney puts a stain on the progress. Until we win a title and are consistently one of the teams to beat in our league, we won't have to worry about losing anyone.
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Post by sag on Mar 9, 2016 10:08:11 GMT -6
BSU0, wasn't talking about your expectations of working hard. Was referring to MAC tournament finals or fire Whitford.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 10:10:03 GMT -6
Well, they beat FW twice and lost in OT to Marquette, but I'm just saying that BSU SHOULD play them non-con. I think they should be on the schedule, but come on IUPUI was lousy this year. Okay so they almost won at Marquette ( the same Marquette team that lost to Belmont a few days earlier), IUPUI also lost by 40 at Butler.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 10:14:02 GMT -6
Sandy has to think about that. It's necessary to promote good will with your staff and if Sandy sees the arrow as being up as I do and likes what he sees down the road, then, yes, an extension would be a way to promote that good will. Otherwise, there's the risk of having to come to the table the following year while others are possibly there too and he hadn't done what he could to show commitment when he could have. Maybe he could wait until late December or January. I don't really know how those things work. We have a new winner. Sheeesh..............
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Post by rmcalhoun on Mar 9, 2016 10:14:31 GMT -6
Well, they beat FW twice and lost in OT to Marquette, but I'm just saying that BSU SHOULD play them non-con. I think they should be on the schedule, but come on IUPUI was lousy this year. Okay so they almost won at Marquette ( the same Marquette team that lost to Belmont a few days earlier), IUPUI also lost by 40 at Butler. I dont think it has to be the finals but we have to be good enough to have been in the final. If we have a good season and get knocked out by an Akron or lose a close well played game I think that will be enough. We are all smart enough to watch the games and be able to tell if we are in that league. This year we were not close if we improve our win total by a couple games and still look middle of the pack it may be time to start looking elsewhere
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