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Post by cardsfan606 on Feb 26, 2024 18:26:52 GMT -6
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Post by cardsfan606 on Feb 26, 2024 18:27:37 GMT -6
great add for basketball, mediocre for everything else but with the MAC’s current situation that’s all we can ask for |
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Post by cardsfan606 on Feb 26, 2024 18:29:55 GMT -6
western Kentucky is where the MAC hits a home run, then by hopefully that pulls middle Tennessee with them. Then we’re in a position to get picky for the 16th team. Then we have a chance to compete with MW and SB again |
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Post by mattg on Feb 26, 2024 18:30:08 GMT -6
0% chance Indiana St or Illinois State leaves the MVC. The cultural identity is very strong for them there.
WKU would be a great add. Wonder if MTSU is still in play? If WKU is in play then EKU is probably not an option. If Stony Brook upgrades some facilities I bet they are looked at. I wish there was something in PA to look at, but there isn’t.
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Post by cardsfan606 on Feb 26, 2024 18:30:47 GMT -6
MAC conference logic is FB survival. They must think more schools can give them better TV money, or at least keep some. I agree with the comment that we'll try to get a couple more Eastern schools for an expanded East, and maybe 2 mid South. Not sure anyone in the East. Army and Navy would have been nice, but that boat has already sailed. UConn would be nice, but they would not leave their basketball home. let me recommend Western Kentucky Illinois State, and Indiana State. This adds a natural rivalry for N. Illinois, and Ball U. football drives it all, just remember that. Tennessee Martin would be ideal, geographically if we get midddle Tennessee to bite |
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Post by cardsfan606 on Feb 26, 2024 18:31:31 GMT -6
0% chance Indiana St or Illinois State leaves the MVC. The cultural identity is very strong for them there. WKU would be a great add. Wonder if MTSU is still in play? If WKU is in play then EKU is probably not an option. If Stony Brook upgrades some facilities I bet they are looked at. I wish there was something in PA to look at, but there isn’t. Duquesne facilities are atrocious for football, I know Lafayette had a good year, but I know nothing about their facilities |
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 26, 2024 18:57:15 GMT -6
Damn! Very impressive. There were only three "D1" schools with lower football attendance with BSU, and one of them was already in the MAC (NIU). But the MAC somehow landed one of the other two. What they are trying for here I don't know, but you have to hand it to them for pulling off something so difficult. It certainly cements the MAC's status as the most irrelevant "D1" conference. College Football Attendance Rankings 2023 |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Feb 26, 2024 19:02:01 GMT -6
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Feb 26, 2024 21:23:52 GMT -6
western Kentucky is where the MAC hits a home run, then by hopefully that pulls middle Tennessee with them. Then we’re in a position to get picky for the 16th team. Then we have a chance to compete with MW and SB again Honest question, not trying to be combative: how is WKU a home run? What does it improve? |
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Post by CardsFB1 on Feb 27, 2024 5:56:51 GMT -6
UMass doesn't making any sense geographical. I could understand WKY or Marshall with proximity. I know it is all about TV contracts but don't think these schools would move the needle. IN State or IL State would weaken the MAC. MAC is the MAC.
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Post by coastalcard on Feb 27, 2024 6:36:40 GMT -6
I've always said, "Who benefits from the MAC besides those who work at the MAC?".......no one. |
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Post by david75bsu on Feb 27, 2024 6:50:11 GMT -6
western Kentucky is where the MAC hits a home run, then by hopefully that pulls middle Tennessee with them. Then we’re in a position to get picky for the 16th team. Then we have a chance to compete with MW and SB again Honest question, not trying to be combative: how is WKU a home run? What does it improve? WKU has developed into a top tier G5 program in football. They have always had a good basketball program that would be upper tier MAC. They would dominate the MAC in both FB and basketball. Indiana State and Illinois, with the addition of WKU and UMass would greatly enhance our basketball status. Would love to see that. The MAC has been moving backwards in both BB and FB this past decade! |
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Post by cardfan on Feb 27, 2024 7:06:14 GMT -6
More chances to lose football games coming!
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Feb 27, 2024 8:49:58 GMT -6
WKU has developed into a top tier G5 program in football. They have always had a good basketball program that would be upper tier MAC. What exactly does that improve though? They would dominate the MAC in both FB and basketball. That seems like an argument against bringing them in. First, if we bring in a random outside school that immediately dominates the entire conference, that supports the argument that our conference sucks. Second, they will be a permanent roadblock to BSU winning. All I really care about is BSU winning. Indiana State and Illinois, with the addition of WKU and UMass would greatly enhance our basketball status. To what end? BSU being at the bottom of a better conference doesn't give me much solace. Would love to see that. The MAC has been moving backwards in both BB and FB this past decade! Bringing in non-MAC schools that are better than us isn't really moving the MAC forward though. If we just bring in a bunch of better teams and all the existing teams still suck, we're just giving those teams what would have otherwise been our auto-bid. |
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Post by kylebsu on Feb 27, 2024 9:58:22 GMT -6
western Kentucky is where the MAC hits a home run, then by hopefully that pulls middle Tennessee with them. Then we’re in a position to get picky for the 16th team. Then we have a chance to compete with MW and SB again Honest question, not trying to be combative: how is WKU a home run? What does it improve? I think quite a bit looking specificly at Football and Basketball. Football: Only 3 losing seasons the past 10 years. So you're pulling in a G5 program that should compete at the top of the league right away and would boost the overall league strength. They're a team that could be in the conversion for a G5 playoff spot or can help make your case if you beat them. It also weakens CUSA by taking them down to 8 members which can reduce competition for a G5 playoff spot. Basketball: They've been at or near the top of CUSA pretty consistently in recent years and are 144 in Ken Pom right now which would put them in line with Toledo. So again you have a program who would likely be able to compete at the top and improve the league a bit overall. It wouldnt bring the MAC to the level of power conference. But you'd be pulling in a solid G5/Mid Major program. From there maybe you try to pull over 2 solid MVC schools from a pool of say NDSU, SDSU, Ill St, IN St, or SIU, you have a shot of pulling in some programs that are performing better than most of the MAC in basketball right now and could compete and are spending around what most MAC schools spend on football. |
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