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Post by david75bsu on Apr 9, 2024 15:37:01 GMT -6
That we are discussing this issue at all shows how broke the system is. Coaches of college sports should not be the highest paid staff at the institution, they should be on par with a professor, not even a department head. Players should get the standard scholarship and be happy with it. If it weren’t for the fact that my Ball State degree has given me a good life,and I appreciate and love the University for that opportunity,I’d never follow the Cards. It will break my heart to stop. But I may as it has gotten way out of hand at Ball State - the Power Four schools it’s an aboaloute crime. These universities should be ashamed at what they have created. The athletic programs run the universities and are destroying the entire college environment! PS: The players are as guilty as coaches and universities for what is happening.
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Post by prestonp on Apr 9, 2024 18:22:23 GMT -6
From a Terre Haute TV station: "Sycamores’ starting five this year, based off their success and market ability, were worth a combined $1.7 to $2 million in the NIL market. ISU NIL pool money is between $300K and 400K."
The Tree's had that kind of money in the NIL before this success? Wow.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 9, 2024 18:53:14 GMT -6
From a Terre Haute TV station: "Sycamores’ starting five this year, based off their success and market ability, were worth a combined $1.7 to $2 million in the NIL market. ISU NIL pool money is between $300K and 400K." The Tree's had that kind of money in the NIL before this success? Wow. Why did you think they were in the position they were this year |
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Post by redbirdman on Apr 9, 2024 19:15:07 GMT -6
Terre Haute is a better market than Muncie because it has both TV stations & some locally headquartered businesses.It's why MVC exceeds MAC in drawing TV audiences.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 9, 2024 19:40:30 GMT -6
Those are pluses.
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Post by prestonp on Apr 9, 2024 19:42:06 GMT -6
IMO the MVC is the best mid-major conference to be in.
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Post by bsutrack on Apr 9, 2024 20:07:59 GMT -6
I realize this will never happen, but wouldn't it be cool if a billionaire stepped-up and dicked the entire NCAA basketball. How would he do this? Follow along with my fantasy.
The billionaire would "hire" the top 25 to 30 college basketball players with whatever it takes, $25 million, $50 million, whatever. He would then pick 4 randomly selected schools in the bottom 100 of the Kenpom rankings from the previous year (such as Old Dominion, Alcorn St, Central Michigan, etc.) and assign 5 or 6 of the "hired players" to each team with the goal that those teams will be some, if not the entire, final four for the following season.
But it would only be for 1 year. The next year, the billionaire would move those 25 to 30 players to a different 4 randomly selected lower echelon NCAA teams.
Maybe the billionaire could place some bets in Vegas on the NCAA teams before loading up their rosters for the season to recoup, or even make money on this operation.
Can you imagine the how the Arizona's, Connecticut's, and Dukes' etc. of the world would react if the entire system was rigged against them like it is now for the BSU's of the world?
It will never happen, but would be fun and would just take one eccentric billionaire to screw the entire college basketball world.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 9, 2024 20:19:59 GMT -6
I love it
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Post by lmills72 on Apr 9, 2024 20:21:55 GMT -6
Listen, as a 40-year fan and supporter I don't like it either but the students didn't create this system they're just living in it. Actually, I believe the students and the courts have pretty much created this system. Rules that the NCAA once used to limit athlete earning and transfers have been eliminated by a variety of court rulings. Some of those rules needed loosening, but IMO the current rules in place serve only the athletes. It's become a bit of an overcorrection of the system, which did need adjusting. The problem is I don't think the new rules serve the games or the fanbases. Now that the players have the power, the question is can they work as a collective unit to create a system that will grow the game and the fanbases instead of tearing them down and apart. |
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Post by rmcalhoun on Apr 9, 2024 20:42:13 GMT -6
I will never blame the kid they are talking advantage of a situation where they can get significant amounts of money for playing a game and they dont have to be a 1% pro to do it.. Sucks ass for us it is what it is
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Post by lmills72 on Apr 9, 2024 22:19:38 GMT -6
I will never blame the kid they are talking advantage of a situation where they can get significant amounts of money for playing a game and they dont have to be a 1% pro to do it.. Sucks ass for us it is what it is That's fine but the system of collegiate athletics that was built, at least to some extent, for them, they are now tearing down. Legally, that's determined to be their right. So, that's that. But now it's in their hands to take control of what others have created. They now have to take a level of responsibility for what they've brought about. Maybe soon we'll see basketball players switching teams at the semester. Starting the season in Muncie, Indiana., and ending it in Phoenix. Or maybe that playoff football team loses a cornerback to injury. No problem, they'll just pick up a transfer from a non-playoff team. Might be a dream for players to take advantage of the free market, but a not sure that's going to serve the game well. |
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 10, 2024 5:51:37 GMT -6
I don't expect the kids to fix what the adults have let get out of hand.
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Post by amishalum on Apr 10, 2024 6:15:52 GMT -6
I will never blame the kid they are talking advantage of a situation where they can get significant amounts of money for playing a game and they dont have to be a 1% pro to do it.. Sucks ass for us it is what it is That's fine but the system of collegiate athletics that was built, at least to some extent, for them, they are now tearing down. Legally, that's determined to be their right. So, that's that. But now it's in their hands to take control of what others have created. They now have to take a level of responsibility for what they've brought about. Maybe soon we'll see basketball players switching teams at the semester. Starting the season in Muncie, Indiana., and ending it in Phoenix. Or maybe that playoff football team loses a cornerback to injury. No problem, they'll just pick up a transfer from a non-playoff team. Might be a dream for players to take advantage of the free market, but a not sure that's going to serve the game well. Transfers after each semester will probably be the next thing as some smart lawyer/sports agent sues the NCAA into capitulating Would make a funny SNL parody sketch where a player switched sides mid-game after “Big Bob the Booster” leans over from the stands and makes a lucrative offer |
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 10, 2024 7:36:43 GMT -6
Antitrust has some limitations.
The so called "rule of reason" is the theory that protected NCAA regulations for decades.
The money division just got too out of line and the NCAA tried this NIL structure to right the wrong.
Implementation was not exactly well thought out. To work they need uniform state law and/or Federal law.
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Post by universityjim on Apr 10, 2024 8:08:04 GMT -6
I will never blame the kid they are talking advantage of a situation where they can get significant amounts of money for playing a game and they dont have to be a 1% pro to do it.. Sucks ass for us it is what it is Well, kids are not keeping all of those big dollar amounts. Their agents are taking a big chunk. Those are the people really driving this nonsense. The people profiting from it. |
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