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Sept 18, 2024 8:16:37 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 18, 2024 8:16:37 GMT -6
A lot of things that would seem to be obviously not viable would actually be quite viable if you had a group of patsies from whom you could extract $10million+ per year to keep the thing going. That and be willing to play 2 money games which aren't much fun. Quite a number of schools subsidize FB. |
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Miami
Sept 18, 2024 9:58:02 GMT -6
Post by JacksonStreetElite on Sept 18, 2024 9:58:02 GMT -6
A lot of things that would seem to be obviously not viable would actually be quite viable if you had a group of patsies from whom you could extract $10million+ per year to keep the thing going. MAC football HAS such a group of patsies. Furthermore, this group of patsies has access to government subsidized loans to cover their increased costs. So, you can go on and on about how bad MAC football is from a competitive perspective, how pathetic their game attendance is, the ridiculous time slots they have to take to get their games televised, the increasing costs and deficits, the ludicrous and obscure bowls they qualify for, the new disadvantages brought about by NIL and transfers, etc. etc. etc. MAC football's ability to reach into the pockets of MAC school students for "fees", overcomes all this. This source of money has been sufficient to cover each programs losses even as they crested above $10 million a year. If you predict the demise of FBS MAC football, you need to explain to me how this source is going to dry up. Serious question, does making this point ever get boring for you? Especially since just about everyone here gets it? Every time you feel the urge to make this point, you should do it in a letter to your governmental representatives or to the school administration. It won't accomplish anything, but at least you'd be talking to people who had the power to accomplish something if you could convince them. |
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Miami
Sept 18, 2024 10:23:59 GMT -6
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 18, 2024 10:23:59 GMT -6
A little boring although the context is a bit different here. Even though people here mostly realize football is kept afloat via massive student fees, they are continually allowing themselves to think and comment that this or that factor (e.g. NIL, conference realignment) is going to shove the MAC out of FBS. So, I just point out that the factors they are worrying about do not seem to be problems that the application of more millions of student fees can't cover. People here seem to miss that point. Then also, as I have explained, MAC football is so VERY stupid and hopeless that it is an absolutely irresistible target for smart ass remarks.
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Miami
Sept 18, 2024 11:04:56 GMT -6
Post by JacksonStreetElite on Sept 18, 2024 11:04:56 GMT -6
Then also, as I have explained, MAC football is so VERY stupid and hopeless that it is an absolutely irresistible target for smart ass remarks. Yeah but think it through. Suppose you are so convincing that every poster on the board says "because of Sherman's convincing arguments, I'm never going to another game and I am going to withdraw whatever financial support I was providing." It's not like that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Now there will be just that much more cost for the students to pick up. So the best case scenario for your drumbeat of repetitive posts here is that the poor, helpless, trod-upon students that you care so very deeply about get more fees shoved upon them. Your only logical option is to take your complaints to the appropriate parties. If you insist on making your point to people who don't have the power to change anything even if you can convince them you're right, I'd point out that there is a MAC-specific message board that would probably love to hear your interesting take on things. mac.csnbbs.com |
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Miami
Sept 18, 2024 11:48:54 GMT -6
Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Sept 18, 2024 11:48:54 GMT -6
So the best case scenario for your drumbeat of repetitive posts here is that the poor, helpless, trod-upon students that you care so very deeply about get more fees shoved upon them. They'll just take out more student loans that'll be forgiven, so taxpayers will end up paying for it anyway. |
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Miami
Sept 18, 2024 12:05:51 GMT -6
Post by coastalcard on Sept 18, 2024 12:05:51 GMT -6
Thinking outside the box:
If we are going to be 5-7 most years anyway…….why not play 4 top 10 teams every year and turn this turd into a money making machine
TV exposure would be off the charts
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 18, 2024 12:31:26 GMT -6
Then also, as I have explained, MAC football is so VERY stupid and hopeless that it is an absolutely irresistible target for smart ass remarks. Yeah but think it through. Suppose you are so convincing that every poster on the board says "because of Sherman's convincing arguments, I'm never going to another game and I am going to withdraw whatever financial support I was providing." It's not like that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Now there will be just that much more cost for the students to pick up. So the best case scenario for your drumbeat of repetitive posts here is that the poor, helpless, trod-upon students that you care so very deeply about get more fees shoved upon them. Your only logical option is to take your complaints to the appropriate parties. If you insist on making your point to people who don't have the power to change anything even if you can convince them you're right, I'd point out that there is a MAC-specific message board that would probably love to hear your interesting take on things. mac.csnbbs.comWouldn't this line of thinking eliminate about 80% of the posts on these boards? I don't think, for example, that Mike Neu is monitoring this board for advice on his offense, but yet there is a lot of it here. |
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Miami
Sept 18, 2024 13:03:55 GMT -6
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Sept 18, 2024 13:03:55 GMT -6
Yeah but think it through. Suppose you are so convincing that every poster on the board says "because of Sherman's convincing arguments, I'm never going to another game and I am going to withdraw whatever financial support I was providing." It's not like that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Now there will be just that much more cost for the students to pick up. So the best case scenario for your drumbeat of repetitive posts here is that the poor, helpless, trod-upon students that you care so very deeply about get more fees shoved upon them. Your only logical option is to take your complaints to the appropriate parties. If you insist on making your point to people who don't have the power to change anything even if you can convince them you're right, I'd point out that there is a MAC-specific message board that would probably love to hear your interesting take on things. mac.csnbbs.comWouldn't this line of thinking eliminate about 80% of the posts on these boards? I don't think, for example, that Mike Neu is monitoring this board for advice on his offense, but yet there is a lot of it here. No it wouldn't. Using your example, most of the discussion is about specific and evolving issues with the offense. E.g. "we got a new OC, but the offense sure looks the same" or "Miami was really shutting down [fill in the blank] so we should have tried [fill in the blank] instead." While discussions may follow regular themes, the underlying facts change, and the discussion changes with them. You've basically just been posting "football is a scam that is fleecing the students" for like 20 years. We get it. If someone posted the exact same specific criticism of Mike Neu ad nausem for the past 9 years at some point I'd be telling him to go straight to Mike too. It's the repetition of the exact same point that I'm talking about. |
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Miami
Sept 18, 2024 13:59:01 GMT -6
Post by williamtsherman on Sept 18, 2024 13:59:01 GMT -6
Well, as I said, in the context of this thread, I am bringing up the student fee scam because I think it renders moot a lot of the worrying over different factors supposedly threatening MAC football that we see mentioned here and in other recent threads. The ability to take money from the students is a super power that MAC football has that makes it invulnerable to ordinary financial considerations. I bring this up to reassure football supporters whose minds seem troubled, because I'm such a nice guy. And, as I have also said, often I comment on MAC "FBS football" because it's so transparently sleazy and stupid that I find humor in it. So there's that.
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Miami
Sept 18, 2024 14:10:29 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Sept 18, 2024 14:10:29 GMT -6
Thinking outside the box: If we are going to be 5-7 most years anyway…….why not play 4 top 10 teams every year and turn this turd into a money making machine TV exposure would be off the charts There are a lot of low level FBS teams out there to fill the dance cards of the P4 schools.
Some question whether we are an opponent worth paying much to play.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Sept 18, 2024 14:18:56 GMT -6
Well, as I said, in the context of this thread, I am bringing up the student fee scam because I think it renders moot a lot of the worrying over different factors supposedly threatening MAC football that we see mentioned here and in other recent threads. The ability to take money from the students is a super power that MAC football has that makes it invulnerable to ordinary financial considerations. I bring this up to reassure football supporters whose minds seem troubled, because I'm such a nice guy. And, as I have also said, often I comment on MAC "FBS football" because it's so transparently sleazy and stupid that I find humor in it. So there's that. For what it's worth, I see the humor to be found, you've just ridden it into the ground here. Nate Bargatze cracks me up, but if I picked out his best joke and watched it once a month for 20 years I'd stop laughing. If you went and posted your point on the MAC message board, I would view the fall-out from that as must-read content. |
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Post by CallingBS on Sept 18, 2024 14:33:46 GMT -6
Well, as I said, in the context of this thread, I am bringing up the student fee scam because I think it renders moot a lot of the worrying over different factors supposedly threatening MAC football that we see mentioned here and in other recent threads. The ability to take money from the students is a super power that MAC football has that makes it invulnerable to ordinary financial considerations. I bring this up to reassure football supporters whose minds seem troubled, because I'm such a nice guy. And, as I have also said, often I comment on MAC "FBS football" because it's so transparently sleazy and stupid that I find humor in it. So there's that. For what it's worth, I see the humor to be found, you've just ridden it into the ground here. Nate Bargatze cracks me up, but if I picked out his best joke and watched it once a month for 20 years I'd stop laughing. If you went and posted your point on the MAC message board, I would view the fall-out from that as must-read content. Bargatze is solid |
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Post by williamtsherman on Sept 19, 2024 12:30:25 GMT -6
Well, as I said, in the context of this thread, I am bringing up the student fee scam because I think it renders moot a lot of the worrying over different factors supposedly threatening MAC football that we see mentioned here and in other recent threads. The ability to take money from the students is a super power that MAC football has that makes it invulnerable to ordinary financial considerations. I bring this up to reassure football supporters whose minds seem troubled, because I'm such a nice guy. And, as I have also said, often I comment on MAC "FBS football" because it's so transparently sleazy and stupid that I find humor in it. So there's that. For what it's worth, I see the humor to be found, you've just ridden it into the ground here. Nate Bargatze cracks me up, but if I picked out his best joke and watched it once a month for 20 years I'd stop laughing. If you went and posted your point on the MAC message board, I would view the fall-out from that as must-read content. Just think of me as Gallagher and MAC football is my watermelon. Not that I ever much liked Gallagher. |
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Sept 19, 2024 19:03:10 GMT -6
Post by CallingBS on Sept 19, 2024 19:03:10 GMT -6
For what it's worth, I see the humor to be found, you've just ridden it into the ground here. Nate Bargatze cracks me up, but if I picked out his best joke and watched it once a month for 20 years I'd stop laughing. If you went and posted your point on the MAC message board, I would view the fall-out from that as must-read content. Just think of me as Gallagher and MAC football is my watermelon. Not that I ever much liked Gallagher. Can't stand Gallagher! |
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Miami
Sept 19, 2024 20:02:21 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 19, 2024 20:02:21 GMT -6
Just think of me as Gallagher and MAC football is my watermelon. Not that I ever much liked Gallagher. Can't stand Gallagher! While I agree, Gallagher can get people to pay for his act. Ball State FB and Sherman, don't pass that test for entertainment value. In his defense, Sherman at least doesn't charge. |
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