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Post by thebsukid on May 16, 2016 21:49:33 GMT -6
I like you General, and I'm going to miss u on the basketball board, but at least come back when we play in the NIT or NCAA next season!!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 6:27:47 GMT -6
I had the opinion all along that Whitford would someday blame this years recruiting class on the lack of a contract extension. This is just ridiculous.
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on May 17, 2016 7:31:55 GMT -6
Where did you see that he said that?
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Post by comet on May 17, 2016 9:33:21 GMT -6
I had the opinion all along that Whitford would someday blame this years recruiting class on the lack of a contract extension. This is just ridiculous. I can't see where he couldn't say that. That's my problem with the whole scenario. If it was going to be done, why wasn't it done sooner so that it wasn't an issue with any recruits ? Right or wrong, whether you like it or not, the timing ain't the best and ain't really sensible.
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Post by cardsfan606 on May 17, 2016 10:09:50 GMT -6
You know what I just decided?
Fuck Ball State basketball.
grow up lol
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Post by cardsfan606 on May 17, 2016 10:11:58 GMT -6
Wow! You have a record that is 31-58 and your MAC record is 13-37, no wins in the MAC tournament and you get a 3 year extension. And we wonder why we have not won a championship in 16 years? Unbelievable. Good for Whit but this is comical. did you really expect him to have a winning record after the first three years?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 10:23:32 GMT -6
Wow! You have a record that is 31-58 and your MAC record is 13-37, no wins in the MAC tournament and you get a 3 year extension. And we wonder why we have not won a championship in 16 years? Unbelievable. Good for Whit but this is comical. did you really expect him to have a winning record after the first three years? This isn't a program started from scratch. Yes I expected a far better conference record than 13-37.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 10:26:12 GMT -6
You know what I just decided?
Fuck Ball State basketball.
grow up lol Yes because rewarding poor performance is the very definition of maturity and wisdom.
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Post by rmcalhoun on May 17, 2016 10:27:32 GMT -6
Wow! You have a record that is 31-58 and your MAC record is 13-37, no wins in the MAC tournament and you get a 3 year extension. And we wonder why we have not won a championship in 16 years? Unbelievable. Good for Whit but this is comical. did you really expect him to have a winning record after the first three years? Not sure but but extending 13-37 this year is a bit of a head scratcher
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 10:54:37 GMT -6
Unbelievable. Zero MAC tourney wins and gets an extension. You can't have less than zero.
Is it just not possible for AD's to learn from their predecessors' mistakes? Unbelievable.
Anyways, it makes a very clear statement as to what our standards of excellence are Sandy could have felt he had to do it. He might even feel the way you do, but even you said you wouldn't fire him. If you don't fire him, you can't hamper him either. Sandy is being evaluated too and cannot be seen as a disabler. He probably should have done it earlier if he thought it might affect recruiting. Thanks for the dumbest post of all time. How does not rewarding mediocre to poor performance make someone a "disabler".
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Post by sag on May 17, 2016 11:26:47 GMT -6
Sandy could have felt he had to do it. He might even feel the way you do, but even you said you wouldn't fire him. If you don't fire him, you can't hamper him either. Sandy is being evaluated too and cannot be seen as a disabler. He probably should have done it earlier if he thought it might affect recruiting. Thanks for the dumbest post of all time. How does not rewarding mediocre to poor performance make someone a "disabler". ; )
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 11:35:22 GMT -6
I had the opinion all along that Whitford would someday blame this years recruiting class on the lack of a contract extension. This is just ridiculous. I can't see where he couldn't say that. That's my problem with the whole scenario. If it was going to be done, why wasn't it done sooner so that it wasn't an issue with any recruits ? Right or wrong, whether you like it or not, the timing ain't the best and ain't really sensible. Honestly, the first thought I had when I read the announcement was that the discussion with Sandy turned to Whit having trouble getting recruit signatures (we talked about it on here) because of the lack of contact commitment. Might not be how it went down but if you don't think that topic came up, you're probably fooling yourself a little bit.
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Post by 00hmh on May 17, 2016 11:36:47 GMT -6
I had the opinion all along that Whitford would someday blame this years recruiting class on the lack of a contract extension. That is opinion is a little silly. Whitford has not at any point blamed anything for anything. Strikes me he took a tough job on, hasn't hesitated to say where the going has been tough, and is realistic about whether he or any coach always makes optimum decisions, would probably do a few things differently. Besides that what is silly is I doubt any recruit would expect an extension before now. I thought it was a possibility it would happen if he had a good year, probably would not happen. If we want the best chance for a good class next year, it has some logic to it, and of course it has pluses and minuses.
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Post by jburton on May 17, 2016 12:05:01 GMT -6
As a resident "apologist", this feels a little premature. I thought they would wait one more season. However, I can't speak as to the affects it was having on recruiting. I suppose that it would be something a potential recruit would look at. I don't think the average recruit thinks to ask how many years a coach has left on his contract. It sounds more like a negative recruiting tactic used by opposing recruiters.
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Post by 00hmh on May 17, 2016 12:06:31 GMT -6
This isn't a program started from scratch. Yes I expected a far better conference record I did expect better. Not all that much better in conference though. Didn't expect quite as much trouble. Realistically, I thought we'd win more games the first two years, about what we did by this year. Getting to this season's record this year is about right. Overall would have predicted a swing of maybe at most 7-10 conference games, a few more the first year, and maybe 7 or 8 wins the second year, right up to until we lost so many players, with recruits leaving, injury, academics. Probably optimistically we expected to be closer to 500 overall by now, but I was not terribly surprised about the first year, this is a new head coach, had some learning to do. That's what you get when you hire a coach with no experience as head coach. I certainly did NOT expect much better recruiting before the first year, and overall thought his first real class was good. I also expected more help from JUCO ranks to come in after we lost Taylor recruits to help and that didn't happen.
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