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Post by universityjim on Aug 16, 2017 8:17:17 GMT -6
Man I dont know I think we get drilled in both but hey you guys are the basketball pros. I save my expert analysis for the oblong ball In the land of RPI winning or losing only counts for 25% of your value, so assuming those teams play strong schedules a 50 point loss in these games is more valuable than a 50 point victory over Longwood (for example). One would hope we don't embarrass ourselves, which would look bad in other areas of tournament selection, among other things. The program is ready for this kind of schedule. It is the right time to move forward.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 16, 2017 8:21:21 GMT -6
Oh I agree we need o be playing better competition. There is nothing wrong with that all. The tournament selection stuff does not really matter as the only way a MAC team is getting in is if they win conf tournament
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 16, 2017 10:50:51 GMT -6
Or win 25 or more with our schedule
Looks like someone should get credit for a good schedule just as we finally have a team that can possibly compete against it
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 16, 2017 11:01:38 GMT -6
Or win 25 or more with our schedule Looks like someone should get credit for a good schedule just as we finally have a team that can possibly compete against it an at large just is not going to happen
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 16, 2017 11:04:28 GMT -6
Not likely, but 25 or more wins plus a win over ND, Dayton, and Oklahoma could get consideration
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 11:10:27 GMT -6
Not likely, but 25 or more wins plus a win over ND, Dayton, and Oklahoma could get consideration ND yes, Dayton and Oklahoma aren't going to get you much run this season. BSU would realistically need 27 wins to even be in the discussion, and even then it would be really dicey.
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Post by cardfan on Aug 16, 2017 12:11:29 GMT -6
Valpo didn't get in with 26 wins. Illinois state didn't get in with 27 wins and a 17-1 conference record. 25 wins by us wouldn't mean anything to the committee.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 16, 2017 12:31:37 GMT -6
Man I dont know I think we get drilled in both but hey you guys are the basketball pros. I save my expert analysis for the oblong ball In the land of RPI winning or losing only counts for 25% of your value, so assuming those teams play strong schedules a 50 point loss in these games is more valuable than a 50 point victory over Longwood (for example). Except for the contribution to low humor on the forum, I am all for dropping Longwood, and a few other bottom feeders. Still. As important as SOS is in RPI, remember we are committed to play more than half our games against the MAC, and even before conference we are going to have a lot of games where we just don't have the option of getting top opponents instead. The issue is just how many games can we get against VERY strong teams while dropping VERY weak teams. Winning games still contributes more to the total unless we can do that. In fact we have no choice at all in conference, more than half our games, and realistically only a handful of games on the schedule before conference which we can make much difference. Calhoun is right, we don't gain enough here to make much difference in postseason chances based on RPI improvement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 13:28:40 GMT -6
In the land of RPI winning or losing only counts for 25% of your value, so assuming those teams play strong schedules a 50 point loss in these games is more valuable than a 50 point victory over Longwood (for example). Except for the contribution to low humor on the forum, I am all for dropping Longwood, and a few other bottom feeders. Still. As important as SOS is in RPI, remember we are committed to play more than half our games against the MAC, and even before conference we are going to have a lot of games where we just don't have the option of getting top opponents instead. The issue is just how many games can we get against VERY strong teams while dropping VERY weak teams. Winning games still contributes more to the total unless we can do that. In fact we have no choice at all in conference, more than half our games, and realistically only a handful of games on the schedule before conference which we can make much difference. Calhoun is right, we don't gain enough here to make much difference in postseason changes based on RPI improvement. Oh please UT Arlington had an RPI of 44 last season, and Belmont had a Top 20 RPI few years ago. We would get a huge boost if we beat ND or any other Top 25 team. This years schedule is good enough to get an at large bid, if BSU wins a lot of games. What you can't do is be like Indiana State last season and put up a Top 15 win and then shit the bed the rest of the season.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 16, 2017 16:07:39 GMT -6
These are road games, but maybe we upset somebody.
Odds are still low, but if we can come out of gate hot, win a few we probably should not.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 16, 2017 18:57:04 GMT -6
I think we might be good enough to win one or more of these games. I still do not think we would get an at large unless we were a ranked team and lost in the championship.
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Post by cardsfan606 on Aug 16, 2017 19:23:00 GMT -6
Are we talking cool uniform ugly floor Oregon.. Like the Nike oregon ...I like their court...
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Post by rmcalhoun on Aug 16, 2017 19:27:49 GMT -6
Are we talking cool uniform ugly floor Oregon.. Like the Nike oregon ...I like their court... Your a sick man
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Post by cardsfan606 on Aug 16, 2017 19:30:36 GMT -6
ill take that with pride lol
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Post by thebsukid on Aug 16, 2017 19:43:13 GMT -6
I agree with Halftime again!
I'm not saying we will get an at large but win 25 and beat ND, Oklahoma, Dayton, and Oregon you will be in the discussion
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