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Post by reevo on Sept 8, 2017 10:50:34 GMT -6
I am fine with this schedule. If we want to get back to the glory days we have to start playing these type of teams and winning at least half against the majors. 1988-89 team beat Purdue, Minnesota & Northwestern and had the 52 best schedule in the country. If you want a chance to dance, you have to take a chance by scheduling good people.
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 8, 2017 11:21:05 GMT -6
I am fine with this schedule. If we want to get back to the glory days we have to start playing these type of teams and winning at least half against the majors. 1988-89 team beat Purdue, Minnesota & Northwestern and had the 52 best schedule in the country. If you want a chance to dance, you have to take a chance by scheduling good people. That #52 schedule probably was boosted by a stronger MAC in those days. It would be hard to get back there, and remember we got Purdue at home, and generally had an easier time getting on those B10 schedules. I doubt we ever see that, but maybe neutral court on TV? I'm a pessimist that the environment today allows us to get back to the top 50 in college basketball. If we make the investment and can attract both coaches and players to do that on a regular basis a top 50-75 schedule is still going to be hard to maintain unless the MAC really steps it up top to bottom. That seems a real long shot. Whitford commented on the effort to get into the ESPN and PK world and it is looking like a good schedule for the next few years is possible, but it won't be top 50 even then, but strong for the MAC. I believe we are making the effort to get to the top of the MAC, so that's the important thing now. Let's give Whit and AD some credit for doing the right thing. Not much faith in them shown here, but they are getting good things done.
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 8, 2017 11:28:20 GMT -6
AMEN ON WHIT!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 14:04:03 GMT -6
This should be our schedule every year Actually, although we need a good schedule with some tough teams, this is not ideally what we should have every year. Not close to ideal. There are some years this schedule or any tough schedule might be toned down for that reason, but I'd rather have tough than last year's schedule with such a lousy home schedule to boot. The ideal would be more rivalry games with other mid majors where we recruit, one more home game, and if we are going to play 3 power conference teams we need to get one at home or at least on a neutral court in exchange. Very nice if it were neutral court in Indy or even Chicago. A home game on ESPN against a good rival would be it on the ideal schedule! Dayton is great, ISU and Valpo great games, Dayton and Valpo both teams regularly better than all but the very best MAC competition! I like that kind of game better than Oregon or OU. But even if we had FW or Evansville or a game in Peoria or another Kentucky/Illinois mid major team regularly instead of one of the majors, and get more games like that at home, I'd like the schedule better. Blah, Blah,Blah........We may lose this game........Blah,Blah,Blah.............Shut the FUCK and deal with it .......................
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 8, 2017 14:12:50 GMT -6
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Post by Lurkin McGurkin on Sept 8, 2017 14:15:51 GMT -6
The home schedule is pretty weak. Pretty hard to sell tickets with that lineup. IUPUI, meh. Valpo, ok. Jackson State? Florida A&M?
Gross.
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Post by gocardsgo on Sept 8, 2017 18:09:45 GMT -6
I've got them at 6-7 W: Stony Brook, Oakland City, IUPUI, North Florida, Jackson State, F A&M L: Dayton, Oklahoma, Oregon, Bucknell, Indiana State, Notre Dame, Valparaiso And I just realized I don't have them winning a single road game. It's going to be a tough non-conference schedule, but hopefully, the team grows during it and are prepared for the MAC schedule. I'm not dissing your post, as it is spot on......but I'm reminded of a couple of years ago that "we need the easy non-conference schedule to learn how to win and be prepared for the MAC schedule". My head is spinning. I hear ya. I've never been of the mindset that you have to "learn how to win" and all that jazz. Cupcake schedules do nothing to enhance a program or the talent on the roster, all they do is make a team complacent (in my opinion).
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Post by redfeather on Sept 8, 2017 18:21:35 GMT -6
Well we aren't playing them two years ago, and I doubt we will be playing them in the future. This year they are going to stink again. They won 11 games last year, and had a non-conference RPI of 207. At the moment they are "freaking horrible". Oregon almost played for a National Championship last season, and this year they aren't even ranked . Oregon will likely be forced to start two mid-major transfers and a Freshman. If we get them early in the season we should be very competitive there as well. 11 wins against a Big XII schedule, versus 21 wins against an extremely soft MAC schedule. Yeah, that's comparable.
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Post by redfeather on Sept 8, 2017 18:28:34 GMT -6
11 wins against a Big XII schedule, versus 21 wins against an extremely soft MAC schedule. Yeah, that's comparable. That's just it! no one knows for sure how this team is going to respond to this schedule?! All depends on how much they've improved over the off season?? If Teague comes out and plays a level up from last season any Taylor demands control of the team then hey, all bets are off and this team came make some noise! If they're not improved and hungry then I say we're looking at a sub 500 pre season and a respectable MAC season strictly based on what we saw last year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 6:17:10 GMT -6
This should be our schedule every year Actually, although we need a good schedule with some tough teams, this is not ideally what we should have every year. Not close to ideal. There is only one team on this years schedule that is an at large lock. Notre Dame is really good, but Dayton, Oregon and Oklahoma all may miss the tourney this season.
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 9, 2017 7:50:34 GMT -6
Actually, although we need a good schedule with some tough teams, this is not ideally what we should have every year. Not close to ideal. There is only one team on this years schedule that is an at large lock. Notre Dame is really good, but Dayton, Oregon and Oklahoma all may miss the tourney this season. You are right about that, although all will be favored over BSU, and if we get one win there it will be a good showing. But the strength of the teams is not such a big issue, and I agreed we need tough games. I don't even mind one or two, maybe three games where we are playing very very good teams. But. All are on the road, and our home schedule just isn't that good for the ticket buyers. We need more home and home like Valpo and ISU. This just isn't an ideal schedule. It's not terrible at all.
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Post by thebsukid on Sept 9, 2017 19:53:52 GMT -6
BS! We will win at least two games against the likes of ND, Oklahoma, Oregon, Dayton, and I believe there is one more pretty good road game my ole mind is missing
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Post by 00hmh on Sept 9, 2017 21:08:33 GMT -6
BS! We will win at least two games against the likes of ND, Oklahoma, Oregon, Dayton, and I believe there is one more pretty good road game my ole mind is missing Hope you're right. Won't be ND we beat. I'll wait on predicting but think we'll be dogs in all 4 on the road.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Sept 10, 2017 15:47:28 GMT -6
Will not be Oregon Either
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