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Post by realitycheck on Nov 13, 2018 22:44:04 GMT -6
Listen you sissies, I not only made it but tailgated before (with rmcalhoun I might add) but stayed throughout and did a post game tailgate as well. It wasn’t that cold. On to Miami. South beach here we come!
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Post by bsutony on Nov 13, 2018 23:54:47 GMT -6
Man, it feels good to get a win like that. Hopefully they can carry that over to Miami and finish strong. It would be nice to gain a little momentum going into the off-season. It could help build confidence for the team next year and maybe keep some recruits on board.
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Nov 14, 2018 7:32:25 GMT -6
I think we win with Riley as well, just might have looked a bit different. I do like the confidence Plitt is gaining though. What a throw and incredible touchdown catch by Lac!
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Nov 14, 2018 7:36:05 GMT -6
Man, it feels good to get a win like that. Hopefully they can carry that over to Miami and finish strong. It would be nice to gain a little momentum going into the off-season. It could help build confidence for the team next year and maybe keep some recruits on board. I think last night did a lot for the current class. Would love to see back to back wins, but a difficult task on the road. Although that would give us 5 as originally predicted. Go Cards!
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 14, 2018 8:46:56 GMT -6
Many predicted 4 wins as a ceiling, 5 as what they hoped for and 6 as a wildly successful season. So on that basis here we are more or less where we'd expect to be.
After the ND game probably everyone became infused with more optimism and raised expectations. Certainly a high assuring a hard crash at some point I guess.
What some of us wanted was progression being competitive in most games even if getting beat. To me a wildly successful season would have been consistency and improvement on a more or less steady vector. Very optimistic with a thin young team.
So almost none of us can be too happy.
But there may be just enough here to have hope for next season. Which is the situation a little too often, but beats the hell out of the recently commonly held alternative of expecting crash and burn and consigning next season to the hell of another rebuild with a rookie coach replacing one run out of town.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 14, 2018 9:02:23 GMT -6
Well, it’s hard to project next year being much different if everything stays the same. This team could now go to Miami and lose by 35. We just don’t know. I feel good about the offense right now but the defense couldn’t stop you.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 14, 2018 9:30:45 GMT -6
Well, it’s hard to project next year being much different if everything stays the same. This team could now go to Miami and lose by 35. We just don’t know. I feel good about the offense right now but the defense couldn’t stop you. A chance of winning at Miami looks something like 1 in 7 or 8.
The season is for all purposes over. A good showing would be one where we compete, where Miami despite senior day is a little lax and lets us make it close. Indeed we could melt down. We are an inconsistent team without depth playing a 2nd string QB (all due respect to Plitt, he is not a headliner).
So which Miami team shows up? Which version of BSU? Do breaks go our way? I agree we don't even know what to expect in this game.
BUT. I am not going to speculate about next year all that much because I do reject that "things stay the same." That seems the one thing that is most unlikely. It hasn't stayed the same for more than a game or two THIS year.
What changes are almost certain. Most likely is that we see at least some shake up in staff. Maybe not that much, but at least some. Also very likely. That we see a few of the young players come back significantly improved. That we don't really lose all that much due to graduation. Less likely is that we have some hero recruit become a difference maker, but it is possible.
If you put a gun to my head, I say the odds are we are more than just a little better. There are about equal chances in my mind that we achieve some kind of respectability(real hope for that next year following), or equally, that we improve,but not much, perhaps a ceiling of 6 wins. And again about an equal chance to each of those that we find we are mired again in the same 4-5 win region, but maybe a bit more consistent in doing so. I'd be surprised to see us melt down compeletely, although I know this is Ball State...
I am absolutely sure we won't be enough better to satisfy many fans, and also sure that even slight improvement will satisfy some. What satisfies the AD midway through next year is the question I'll be curious about. And where we are at that point in getting resources in line for the indoor facility and the possible search for a coaching upgrade if we are not significantly improved.
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 14, 2018 9:50:33 GMT -6
I read that the last game would be tough on the road. I don't want to hear that sh*t. Boo Hoo ya'll gotta take a bus ride, SO WHAT? This team has a chance to show that they are making the kind of progress all the fans have hoped for. You need to put your big boy pants on and go out and play a good football game in an away stadium. The dimensions are the same and the turf will be green. You have a chance to save your self respect and possibly your coach's job. Don't you dare go out and give this a half effort. Do not let yourself and your teammates down. You owe yourselves, the seniors, the fans and your coaches to get up, run out on the field in Oxford play like you have never played before. Play with Pride...Play with Purpose...That guy facing you on the other side of the line thinks he is tougher than you. I don't think so but you will have to prove it and I believe you will.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 14, 2018 10:09:31 GMT -6
I read that the last game would be tough on the road. I don't want to hear that sh*t. Boo Hoo ya'll gotta take a bus ride, SO WHAT? This team has a chance to show that they are making the kind of progress all the fans have hoped for. You need to put your big boy pants on and go out and play a good football game in an away stadium. The dimensions are the same and the turf will be green. You have a chance to save your self respect and possibly your coach's job. Don't you dare go out and give this a half effort. Do not let yourself and your teammates down. You owe yourselves, the seniors, the fans and your coaches to get up, run out on the field in Oxford play like you have never played before. Play with Pride...Play with Purpose...That guy facing you on the other side of the line thinks he is tougher than you. I don't think so but you will have to prove it and I believe you will. Amen
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 14, 2018 10:19:47 GMT -6
From the new star press article Cosby qouted... I think if you read between the lines you can see that this win might have at least for the moment righted a sinking ship.. Gotta keep it together for one more.. We have to compete because if we get stomped its going to go south over the off season. Winning heals a lot of wounds and trust me we need some healing
"Coach Elson always preaches toughness and effort, things like that. It’s more than that, but those are our core values," Cosby said. "We’ve been through so much together since I’ve been here these past two years. I think everyone has been fed up. … We’ve had times to end the game where we didn’t rise to the occasion. I knew in my head, I didn’t want to go back to the locker room on a loss where I knew we could’ve won the game. Everyone has reached that breaking point, and we had to buckle down in crunch time."
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Post by cardfan on Nov 14, 2018 10:26:57 GMT -6
Losing brings out the ugly, the frustration, the jealousies, the lack of trust, etc. and leads to “fed up” and “breaking point.”
This program needed that win— you can tell from all the post game emotion. Mike especially. Will it carry over to the Miami game and the off season? We’ll see. Every time you think the team has turned a corner it runs into the wall instead. We/they need evidence the ship is headed the right direction. It has taken on water but is it sinking?
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Post by comet on Nov 14, 2018 10:43:25 GMT -6
The time of possession was WMU 42:00 minutes. BSU 18:00 Mins. AND we scored 35 points in that 18:00 minutes. Pretty unbelievable. Agree with someone who posted earlier, the QB controversy has started for next year and you have to add Paddock to that mix cause as Rob has stated, the staff really likes him. david75bsu, you deserve a medal. My granddaughter and her high school friends, yes high school, not BSU students, made it through 3 quarters and were frozen and had to bail at that point. Buddy and I agreed that Lester made the mistake in going for two at that point. Had we scored and had to go for two we would likely have failed as our run game stunk against these guys. He wouldn't have to have done anything but score and keep scoring and we would have eliminated ourselves.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 14, 2018 11:02:35 GMT -6
I read that the last game would be tough on the road. I don't want to hear that sh*t. Boo Hoo ya'll gotta take a bus ride, SO WHAT? This team has a chance to show that they are making the kind of progress all the fans have hoped for. With all the progress we had hoped for by now, the most optimistic fan would say our game at Miami would be one where we were an underdog.
As it is, compared to the team without serious injury, without inconsistency as a trademark, and without this possible set of issues with player unrest, I don't think we are as good as we might have been.
But except for that, I agree. We still go and play, always the goal to play better every time out, and up to our best possible level.
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Post by comet on Nov 14, 2018 11:12:38 GMT -6
Defensively, Cosby played absolutely great last night. Was all over the place making plays. I totally agree in the next man up comments that coaches make, but we do have to remember that we played without White and Thomas in last nights game. Know White has been banged up. Don't know what was going on with Thomas.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 14, 2018 11:17:18 GMT -6
From the new star press article Cosby qouted... I think if you read between the lines you can see that this win might have at least for the moment righted a sinking ship.. Gotta keep it together for one more.. We have to compete because if we get stomped its going to go south over the off season. Winning heals a lot of wounds and trust me we need some healing "Coach Elson always preaches toughness and effort, things like that. It’s more than that, but those are our core values," Cosby said. "We’ve been through so much together since I’ve been here these past two years. I think everyone has been fed up. … We’ve had times to end the game where we didn’t rise to the occasion. I knew in my head, I didn’t want to go back to the locker room on a loss where I knew we could’ve won the game. Everyone has reached that breaking point, and we had to buckle down in crunch time." Whatever else people think this is a Neu quote from a pretty good player to this current team that could be put on a poster somewhere at the stadium about senior night. Speaking about his own emotional makeup and the challenging times he has been through: "Forget the head coach-player relationship, I'm a brother with all those guys because I also put this helmet on too and I put this jersey on. We'll always be connected for life. I told them that. It was a great opportunity for me to go tell every guy in that locker room afterwards that I love them and that I appreciate everything they gave to this university and how they bought into being a student-athlete."
"You think back to when you arrived on campus and everybody has a different story. It's emotional because it's like your son. In a lot of ways, even though we have one more left together, it's like saying goodbye. You're cutting them loose and you're hoping they go off and make an impact in the world. I get emotional thinking about that, because I care about that and I'm passionate about that."
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