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Post by cardfan on Nov 23, 2015 18:16:03 GMT -6
I was trying to be nice
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Post by universityjim on Nov 23, 2015 18:35:51 GMT -6
In Parmalee's mind..''I think I will leave Northern California, one of the most beautiful areas of the world, go to central Indiana, work for a quarter of what I am making now, kiss the ass of of bunch of 17-18 year old punks and try to talk them in to coming to school for an education they might not appreciate. Sounds like a great idea!! I'm in!!'' I could have written a book. It ain't happenin'. Obviously you didn't watch the movie San Andreas. I'd be getting out of there as soon as possible. It's not a matter of if, but when!
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 23, 2015 18:41:40 GMT -6
He runs from California from the ''Big One'' and comes to Muncie where the ''Sky is Falling''
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Post by BSU Card Fan in AZ on Nov 23, 2015 19:24:25 GMT -6
He runs from California from the ''Big One'' and comes to Muncie where the ''Sky is Falling'' So true!
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 23, 2015 21:50:46 GMT -6
Of course, I'm not up on all the "hot" candidates out there, but, if we do hire new coordinators, I'd be shocked if I've ever heard of them.
Does anyone really think a "name" hire (unless it's a former BSU player) for a coordinator job is likely?
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 24, 2015 7:00:55 GMT -6
I am not sure new coordinators are needed. The thousand pound obstacle in the road may be Pete Lembo. Will he take the handcuffs off Joey Lynch and turn Neal loose, stop calling slow developing zone reads on first and ten, and receivers running five yard outs when we need ten? The defense is another question altogether. Is it Lembo that likes the schemes we have been running? Apparently so. They did not change much this past season. Do we need a new coach or do we need to get healthy and in the weight room for the winter, tweek our defense a bit, become more aggressive, meaning we blitz more and stop giving receivers from the opposing team ten yard cushions? My gut feeling is that we will find out soon after Tuesday night's game. IF changes are about to come down they should come down quick. Cut the ties, thank the fired coaches for their efforts and start looking for immediately for replacements with NEW IDEAS. If Lembo is not open to accept new methods and ideas we are right back to square one. It is up to the coach. Either make the changes to allow your coaches a new start or cut the ties and look to the future with new blood. I have no idea what is correct, but I do feel that changes of some type need to be made. At this point we have to put our faith in Coach Lembo and have the confidence that he will decide correctly. I hope so, because he has taken us too far to regress and start over again with a new regime.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 8:21:02 GMT -6
I am not sure new coordinators are needed. The thousand pound obstacle in the road may be Pete Lembo. Will he take the handcuffs off Joey Lynch and turn Neal loose, stop calling slow developing zone reads on first and ten, and receivers running five yard outs when we need ten? The defense is another question altogether. Is it Lembo that likes the schemes we have been running? Apparently so. They did not change much this past season. Do we need a new coach or do we need to get healthy and in the weight room for the winter, tweek our defense a bit, become more aggressive, meaning we blitz more and stop giving receivers from the opposing team ten yard cushions? My gut feeling is that we will find out soon after Tuesday night's game. IF changes are about to come down they should come down quick. Cut the ties, thank the fired coaches for their efforts and start looking for immediately for replacements with NEW IDEAS. If Lembo is not open to accept new methods and ideas we are right back to square one. It is up to the coach. Either make the changes to allow your coaches a new start or cut the ties and look to the future with new blood. I have no idea what is correct, but I do feel that changes of some type need to be made. At this point we have to put our faith in Coach Lembo and have the confidence that he will decide correctly. I hope so, because he has taken us too far to regress and start over again with a new regime. "Will he take the handcuffs off Joey Lynch and turn Neal loose ..."You think Lembo has had handcuffs on Lynch? Lynch was a college QB only 9 years ago, and took over as OC only seven years out of college. His experience has been at St. Joe's, Ashland and Ball State. Could it be he needed more seasoning before taking on an FBS OC assignment?
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Post by bsu0 on Nov 24, 2015 8:26:13 GMT -6
He works for Pete Lembo. Lembo apparently was happy with the play calling because it did not change to any great degree at any time during the season. If Lynch was not in step with Lembo why didn't Lembo tell him to change the type of plays that were being called? It doesn't matter how much experience the OC has, he is NOT the boss. See how long you as an OC can keep your job if you start calling games that are not in step with the philosophy of the Head Coach.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 24, 2015 8:58:08 GMT -6
I know they watered down the play book for Neal. I don't think they necessarily should have. The kid is talented and is a creator. Let him operate a robust offense and see what he can do. There was nothing to lose. Running the same basic stuff over and over got us no where.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 24, 2015 11:16:32 GMT -6
I know they watered down the play book for Neal. I don't think they necessarily should have. The kid is talented and is a creator. Let him operate a robust offense and see what he can do. There was nothing to lose. Running the same basic stuff over and over got us no where. I see both sides of that. The talented creator is still a freshman and working with college freshmen means expecting mistakes. Hard to say how many times we avoided trouble, it's easy to see lost opportunity, but we would have also had more chance for big mistakes. You have to minimize mistakes. At least at first the watered down play book made sense, you have to think what the long term development is about. How putting in a more high risk, high reward game plan cuts is not completely clear to me, whenever we do it. The "basic stuff" was poorly executed much of the time, not sure trying something else would fix that problem. We also probably expected defense to make more stops and keep us out of shootout situations, where we had to score every time. Wanting to keep the D off the field and hold the ball is partly the reason for going with slow and steady. Getting a lead and holding it, ball control, clock, and putting more pressure on the opponent was probably more of our overall game plan than turned out to be possible. If you aren't going to execute, on both sides of the ball, that plan fails. I doubt there is one strategic decision to blame, and to some extent looking at the game plan for the QB which is so easy to do, is probably not completely fair to the coaches who I am pretty sure wish a lot of things worked differently.
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Post by universityjim on Nov 24, 2015 12:48:30 GMT -6
The MAC is very strong this year, especially the west, plus we played the best two teams in the east. We played one of the toughest schedules top to bottom any Ball State team has ever played. There were four teams on the schedule we should have beaten and we beat three of them. We competed pretty well with some other pretty good teams and had a chance to beat them. If this team had played the same schedule some other BSU teams played we might have seen an entirely different outcome that would have masked the deficiencies we see now.
Honestly I think our issues stem from poor recruiting classes in 2013 and 2012. Especially 2013. That was a weak class to start with and half of it isn't even here anymore. I don't know if the fact that we changed recruiting coordinators in 2014 made a difference or not, but the 2014 and 2015 classes seem to be much stronger both in number and quality.
So I'm starting to come around to feeling that we didn't have the players to compete this year, but I don't feel the coaches did themselves any favors either on offense or defense. The difficult schedule amplified the weaknesses, deflated morale and made a difficult situation even worse.
I don't know what change will be best for us, but I'm pretty sure one is coming. Either in the coaching staff or through player defections.
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Post by cardfan on Nov 24, 2015 12:52:58 GMT -6
Spot on, UJ.
I think we'll see defections of both the staff and players. Hopefully the team can have a strong winter and spring and bounce back next year. We do have enough talent on offense to make noise, the caveat being the O-line is strong enough despite losing seniors. (the line under performed this year despite the experience) We need a serious infusion of athletes on D. Maybe some of the redshirts have that. I think we'll see more Juco's coming in, too.
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Post by 00hmh on Nov 24, 2015 13:01:40 GMT -6
Coaching change might make more of a difference than player change. Jucos don't seem to have the same potential as in basketball. Transfers can help, but have to sit out. I think we will have to fight with the weapons we have and that come in this year.
I agree with the post above that we'll have to play the more talented players added this year and last and survive not having seniors. And that post is right that it probably looks a little worse than it is because of the schedule strength. Still, despite some close games, we have been blown out too many games to be really optimistic about next year.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 24, 2015 13:48:59 GMT -6
Screw it I hear Less Miles is going to be available
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 20:14:31 GMT -6
Add Chip Kelly to the "possible" list.
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