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Post by reevo on Nov 20, 2019 21:52:37 GMT -6
How do we manage to get jabbed at home You make half of your freaking free throws and we are not talking about Thompson’s travel. I am tired of the excuses. Free Throw shooting is confidence and toughness and this program has been searching for team toughness since Hunsaker got fired. This program needs new leadership, plain and simple.
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Post by proctorp on Nov 20, 2019 22:00:31 GMT -6
Trying to remember how many years I have suffered as a season ticket holder, but I am about done with BSU basketball. Whitford is a seven-year joke of a coach. What player has ever improved under this guy? When has his sets and schemes evolved? His zone offense is as predictable as a junior-high team. Watching this program is like watching Ground Hog day over and over! Our seniors tonight looked pathetic. Granted foul shots cost us the game, but I thought that NK outplayed and outcoached us tonight. I am sure the usual apologists will say this game was an outlier, but it looks and smells like the same shit we have watched for seven years.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 20, 2019 22:11:29 GMT -6
I make no excuses for tonight but we got jabbed on a few calls in my view; in a close game a call or two can make a big difference.
Coaching did not lose this game; come on, shooting lost the game; not every loss can be hung on Whit. Can he shoot their free throws?! Hello, come in.
A KJ loss for more than a game or two will be felt.
Somebody said all of our Seniors sucked, really?
For one, Mallers and Teague didn’t suck?! Didn’t Teague have a double double and Mallers hit four 3’s in the second half? And play good D?
Who sucked was our bench tonight as the General pointed out. Anyone have a real update on KJ?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 20, 2019 22:15:32 GMT -6
Trying to remember how many years I have suffered as a season ticket holder, but I am about done with BSU basketball. Whitford is a seven-year joke of a coach. What player has ever improved under this guy? When has his sets and schemes evolved? His zone offense is as predictable as a junior-high team. Watching this program is like watching Ground Hog day over and over! Our seniors tonight looked pathetic. Granted foul shots cost us the game, but I thought that NK outplayed and outcoached us tonight. I am sure the usual apologists will say this game was an outlier, but it looks and smells like the same shit we have watched for seven years. Your not alone the people around us have been season tickets holders for many many years,, They are all really disgusted as well
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 20, 2019 22:19:30 GMT -6
It did not look like he did. I don't know I had a pretty good view on that. Don't know what the rule is, but he did slide quite a ways.
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Post by proctorp on Nov 20, 2019 22:19:49 GMT -6
Kid, please share the bottle you drink from. Are you telling me that the last play is what you call coaching? Teague shooting the foul shot over Mallers? Our guys looked snake bit at best, especially at the FT line. The refs were bad both ways. Spare us the jobbed excuses. I saw nothing tonight that we have not witnessed for seven years now.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 20, 2019 22:20:28 GMT -6
Ill add this NKU brought a decent amount of fans. They were all pretty cool as well. I ended up talking to their AD, He said that is as bad as they have played in a long time. I have no idea if that true or not but he was not happy
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Post by rmcalhoun on Nov 20, 2019 22:21:44 GMT -6
It did not look like he did. I don't know I had a pretty good view on that. Don't know what the rule is, but he did slide quite a ways. no one really argued it either
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 20, 2019 22:50:32 GMT -6
I'm not sure how the refs killed us in this game. We were called for far fewer fouls, had fewer turnovers, were even on the boards and had a comparable number of FT opportunities. They might have been bad but they were equally bad.
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 20, 2019 23:18:14 GMT -6
Somebody said all of our Seniors sucked, really? For one, Mallers and Teague didn’t suck?! Didn’t Teague have a double double and Mallers hit four 3’s in the second half? And play good D? Yeah, Teague had a sucky game. This was about the most unimpressive double-double (with five assists, a block and a steal thrown in) I've ever seen. It's the type of stat line that probably will make him an eventual BSU HOFer but it's very deceptive. Let's look at his game: He had four first-half points, all scored between 11:00 and 10:00 in the first half. But it's not just that he didn't score in the first 9 minutes of the game; he didn't even shoot the fucking ball (I don't have a great memory for this; just going by the play-by-play in the box score). Your off-the-bench freshman point guard had more shots in the first nine minutes of the game than did your best player. That's an indictment of Teague, yes, but it's an even bigger indictment of your coach. How do you go into a game without a specific plan to use your most dominant weapon? Are we thinking, "Oh yeah, we're just going to play the right way and let the game come to Taj." BS Let's also consider that he fouled out. He DIDN'T HAVE A FOUL in the first half, and at least 3 of his fouls fit into the category of either dumb or frustrated. That shouldn't be the case with your best player and a senior. And let's not forget that he had a terrible TO late in the game because he wants to play like a guard and lead the break and instead threw a horrible pass that resulted in a easy bucket for NKU. Finally, he just disappeared down the stretch. Didn't have a point or rebound in the last 6 minutes. With the game on the line, he was a non-factor. That's a great game for Brachen Hazen. It's a shitty game for your best player and a supposed All-MAC first-teamer.
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Post by thebsukid on Nov 20, 2019 23:19:31 GMT -6
Proctorp, I’m simply saying missing free throws in my view is not on the Coaches but on the players?!
Yes, I was the first person mentioning Teague shooting the free throws over Mallers.
I guess the point is in this game our overall shooting was poor which I put the blame on the players.
Maybe we just see it differently
I understand some of your points LMills but to call a double double sucky is a stretch
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Post by lmills72 on Nov 20, 2019 23:46:08 GMT -6
We just have different standards. You look strictly at numbers; I try to look at context.
I'm a Cubs fan, too, and I'd argue that nobody in the history of major league baseball hit more worthless home runs than Sammy Sosa. 609 home runs, 9th on the all-time list and the vast majority coming when his team was already 6 runs up or 10 runs behind; most of his home runs had absolutely no bearing on the outcome of the game.
I think Teague is too often a lot like Sammy Sosa.
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Post by bsu1 on Nov 21, 2019 5:31:19 GMT -6
We have lost twice and both losses can be attributed to lousy free throw percentage. Also, I noticed Teague was playing down on the baseline for much of the night and being productive. The last 10 minutes he played he was 10-12' from the basket where isn't nearly as effective.
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Post by bsu1 on Nov 21, 2019 5:41:47 GMT -6
Was that final play really designed for Josh to take the final shot?
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Post by frozenbaugh on Nov 21, 2019 6:28:11 GMT -6
There is nothing particularly exciting about this team. It's another lost year.
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