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Post by 00hmh on Aug 6, 2015 11:56:57 GMT -6
C'mon Sherman, that is irrelevant to the substance of the argument. I mentioned Knight in passing because BSU and damned near every team in basketball now uses some motion offense.
His Hall of Fame career does provide a well known counter example to your idea that shirt size and rebounding prowess is essential to an inside scoring.
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 6, 2015 15:00:39 GMT -6
Freshman, I will take issue with your statement that most teams use some kind of motion offense. If they do, the coaches that are trying to teach it have no idea what they are doing. One of the lynchpins of an effective motion offense is shot selection and 99.9% of the coaches today are afraid to tell their players they can't take certain shots. One of the biggest shortfalls of today's coaches is SHOT SELECTION. I detest many of Knight's characteristics and methods but he demanded that you take only the shots you were capable of making and if you did other than that, your ass was on the bench before your feet hit the ground after taking an errant shot.
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Post by 00hmh on Aug 6, 2015 23:46:49 GMT -6
Freshman, I will take issue with your statement that most teams use some kind of motion offense. If they do, the coaches that are trying to teach it have no idea what they are doing. One of the lynchpins of an effective motion offense is shot selection and 99.9% of the coaches today are afraid to tell their players they can't take certain shots. One of the biggest shortfalls of today's coaches is SHOT SELECTION. I detest many of Knight's characteristics and methods but he demanded that you take only the shots you were capable of making and if you did other than that, your ass was on the bench before your feet hit the ground after taking an errant shot. Good Points! But, I still think a very large number of teams have some motion offense principles as part of their offense. I would surely be wrong to say most teams use the same motion offense taught by Bob Knight. Coach K uses motion but has a lot more concentration on spacing and individual play, as is the case in the pros. Many teams are using lots of sets with motion starting from a set and with a mix of set plays, overall it is perhaps a more rigidly defined motion game even mixing in ideas from the Flex or other pattern offense. Still, motion offense is now part of the game, you see players guided by principles of screening and motion, not just set plays or patterns. Certainly, you are right that coaches are often much more lax about shot selection and disciplined play. Some of that is just the fact that there is a shot clock, some is the zone defense, some of it is the desire to increase game pace but even the pros with a 24 second clock use some motion offense. Sometimes taking a decent shot early is better than playing against withering defense and maybe throwing the ball away. Old timers will remember IU beating UNLV's Coach Tarkanian by accelerating the game pace because that UNLV team had smothering half court defense and IU's coach would rather take a decent quick shot than try to grind out a better shot where most teams had failed in such attempts, and UNLV feasted on turnovers and fast breaks. Many on here remarked that BSU has had such poor ball handling that looking for a better shot had some clear negatives. And we had painful evidence that slowing the game doesn't always help. Billy Taylor turned discipline play into a disaster by holding the ball and then waiting to chuck up a bad shot at the end of the clock...
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Post by bsu0 on Aug 7, 2015 5:05:05 GMT -6
One of the main short comings of Cardinal teams in recent history is that no one could hit any shots!! Let's hope Coach Whit and his staff can turn this around. Abe Lemons the old Oklahoma City and Texas coach said one time, ''There is really one one play...Put the ball in the basket.''
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