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Post by bsutrack on Feb 3, 2024 16:05:44 GMT -6
Speaking of bad FT shooting, WMu’s Crump was 1-7 today and brings his season total to 17-70 Makes Sparks look like a free-throw all-star.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 3, 2024 19:38:01 GMT -6
Speaking of bad FT shooting, WMu’s Crump was 1-7 today and brings his season total to 17-70 Dude makes Matt Kamieniecki look like Reggie Miller. But you guys see now that the terribleness of the bottom end of the Mid-American MAC Conference makes winning some games and making the tournament entirely possible.
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Post by realitycheck on Feb 3, 2024 20:23:52 GMT -6
I listened to Lewis on the postgame. He was glad to get a road dub but also frustrated with the second half start and our lack of situational awareness in key moments. Apparently, it’s a luxury to have even a single player who understands this which doesn’t surprise me. It used to be a requirement that your PG be super secure with ball and the coach on the floor who knew exactly what to do especially in the last 10 minutes of the game. Not any more. Players today just play without any strategic awareness of how many fouls opponents have, how to attack, time left on the shot clock, etc.
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Post by cardfan on Feb 3, 2024 20:52:46 GMT -6
I listened to Lewis on the postgame. He was glad to get a road dub but also frustrated with the second half start and our lack of situational awareness in key moments. Apparently, it’s a luxury to have even a single player who understands this which doesn’t surprise me. It used to be a requirement that your PG be super secure with ball and the coach on the floor who knew exactly what to do especially in the last 10 minutes of the game. Not any more. Players today just play without any strategic awareness of how many fouls opponents have, how to attack, time left on the shot clock, etc. is that a product of aau ball, or lack of good high school coaches anymore?
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Post by swenocha on Feb 3, 2024 21:00:37 GMT -6
I listened to Lewis on the postgame. He was glad to get a road dub but also frustrated with the second half start and our lack of situational awareness in key moments. Apparently, it’s a luxury to have even a single player who understands this which doesn’t surprise me. It used to be a requirement that your PG be super secure with ball and the coach on the floor who knew exactly what to do especially in the last 10 minutes of the game. Not any more. Players today just play without any strategic awareness of how many fouls opponents have, how to attack, time left on the shot clock, etc. is that a product of aau ball, or lack of good high school coaches anymore? Yes
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 3, 2024 21:20:04 GMT -6
I listened to Lewis on the postgame. He was glad to get a road dub but also frustrated with the second half start and our lack of situational awareness in key moments. Apparently, it’s a luxury to have even a single player who understands this which doesn’t surprise me. It used to be a requirement that your PG be super secure with ball and the coach on the floor who knew exactly what to do especially in the last 10 minutes of the game. Not any more. Players today just play without any strategic awareness of how many fouls opponents have, how to attack, time left on the shot clock, etc. He's been coaching college ball for a long time. This shouldn't be news to him. And since it shouldn't be news to him, you'd think it's something he would have been addressing since Day 1.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 4, 2024 7:19:05 GMT -6
AAU ball teaches players to ignore their HS coaching. It's not system, just look for your shot.
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Post by coastalcard on Feb 4, 2024 8:03:08 GMT -6
I'm beginning to think that the 3 point shot has now totally disrupted the fundamentals taught by Shooter and Coach Norman
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Post by david75bsu on Feb 4, 2024 8:04:34 GMT -6
The men’s team need to learn from the ladies, you play the second half like the first. The ladies don’t take their foot of the gas, the press down harder. Love the fight the ladies have, if the men can learn this they should be able to finish strong.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 4, 2024 8:24:27 GMT -6
I listened to Lewis on the postgame. He was glad to get a road dub but also frustrated with the second half start and our lack of situational awareness in key moments. Apparently, it’s a luxury to have even a single player who understands this which doesn’t surprise me. It used to be a requirement that your PG be super secure with ball and the coach on the floor who knew exactly what to do especially in the last 10 minutes of the game. Not any more. Players today just play without any strategic awareness of how many fouls opponents have, how to attack, time left on the shot clock, etc. Much like the portal, this is just one of the realities of today that coaches will either deal with well or poorly. The ones who deal with these things well will contend for championships and sometimes win them. The ones who deal with them poorly will find themselves in February battling with the likes of WMU to avoid being relegated out of the MAC conference tourney.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 4, 2024 9:43:46 GMT -6
I listened to Lewis on the postgame. He was glad to get a road dub but also frustrated with the second half start and our lack of situational awareness in key moments. Apparently, it’s a luxury to have even a single player who understands this which doesn’t surprise me. It used to be a requirement that your PG be super secure with ball and the coach on the floor who knew exactly what to do especially in the last 10 minutes of the game. Not any more. Players today just play without any strategic awareness of how many fouls opponents have, how to attack, time left on the shot clock, etc. Much like the portal, this is just one of the realities of today that coaches will either deal with well or poorly. The ones who deal with these things well will contend for championships and sometimes win them. The ones who deal with them poorly will find themselves in February battling with the likes of WMU to avoid being relegated out of the MAC conference tourney. The portal is making this worse. Not as much chance to have a team that is trained over multiple years and where the coach can bench a good player to make a point.
Whitford and Lewis have both been limited by lack of deptg in ability to use the bench to make a point with players. But I'm not sure that time honored coaching tool will work when the benched player just starts looking for the next coach who will give him free rein. Recruiting freshmen who have played years in AAU makes them less receptive to coaching so getting them young and working with them isn't as likely to be an option with talented players who also have the lure of NIL.
The P5 powers with great coaches who probably get away with more tough coaching. There aren't very many old school coaches, but the relatively tough coaches still have a chance to win. Their players are rewarded well with NIL to start with, and they may be able to keep players who may not be one and done quality but if they stay around 4 years are good enough to win championships even if the temperamental stars bail.
The ISU coach is selling a "fun system" but it is a system and he coaches it, his success is with players that fit the system and he has done great with lesser gets in the portal. It will be interesting to see how he does at the next stop where the players are going to be harder to coach.
Lewis did very well at UCLA but then he was the assistant and they had a deep bench with good players. He had a lot of success getting those players he worked with to a higher level. Here if he does that he may see the guy heading our the door...we can't match offers, or give them the exposure they want.
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Post by 00hmh on Feb 4, 2024 9:58:45 GMT -6
I listened to Lewis on the postgame. He was glad to get a road dub but also frustrated with the second half start and our lack of situational awareness in key moments. He's been coaching college ball for a long time. This shouldn't be news to him. And since it shouldn't be news to him, you'd think it's something he would have been addressing since Day 1. He has spent his time at past stops with players who were no doubt AAU stars but had to improve at the higher level and when they did improve with hard work, had a big payday and bright enough lights right where they were. When you are at our level, he can't keep his success stories and a player who is a starter here despite the lack of discipline can move laterally so easily.
He took Whitfords talent, improved their team play and individual play, and did well with it, but then they bail. 4 new starters this year. Only 1 he coached last year. Not much carryover.
You can't get that much done with that kind of turnover. And without depth so you can reinforce the practice lessons with the bench if the players don't respond to coaching.
Playing portal roulette every year and assembling AAU type teams doesn't put much premium on coaching, and that can't be good for mid majors. Not in terms of building a good program which can consistently be good. Unless your goal is just to be better (luckier?) than your conference foes.
I don't know the answer but it may be finding recruits who are maybe a little LESS talented (unable to leave quite so easily) but MORE receptive to coaching who fit what he wants. You'll still need to deal with portal turnover, still need to get the alpha player or two for every team, but maybe keep a core of players who you work with over more time.
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Post by realitycheck on Feb 4, 2024 10:15:59 GMT -6
I don’t believe the solution is to recruit less talented players. We simply need more depth and Lewis has to sell his core on staying. The more I’ve thought about it, there’s no reason why we can’t pay Basheer to stay next year a comparable amount to what he may get leaving (150k). If we can keep him I think the others (Pearson, Anderson, Bailey) will stay and if we keep the freshmen (Mason, Middleton and Doughty) now you’ve got a core of six players we can add 2-4 portal jumps to and be a contender. If I’m Lewis, I find the 💰 and recruit Jihad like crazy to stay.
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Post by williamtsherman on Feb 4, 2024 10:34:17 GMT -6
I don’t really know what the rules are with coaches promoting and encouraging NIL money. But I’m sure you’re going to find that some coaches, as the overall leader and tone-setter of a program, will consistently increase NIL money wherever they go. It’s so obviously a key to program success. Successful people find ways to make the key factors work in their favor, and losers make excuses (note - that was the cue for those among us with the loser mentality to trot out a few choice excuses)
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Post by lmills72 on Feb 4, 2024 10:34:50 GMT -6
I don’t believe the solution is to recruit less talented players. We simply need more depth and Lewis has to sell his core on staying. The more I’ve thought about it, there’s no reason why we can’t pay Basheer to stay next year a comparable amount to what he may get leaving (150k). If we can keep him I think the others (Pearson, Anderson, Bailey) will stay and if we keep the freshmen (Mason, Middleton and Doughty) now you’ve got a core of six players we can add 2-4 portal jumps to and be a contender. If I’m Lewis, I find the 💰 and recruit Jihad like crazy to stay. As I've said before, if I'm Lewis I find a way to route about half of my $600,000 salary to NIL money. If he wins at BSU it's going to pay off handsomely for him in the long run, so it's a good investment that will be returned many times over if it's truly players (and not coaching) that we lack. I'm sure that's against whatever rules the NCAA has left and, unfortunately, they'd love to come after poor old BSU while ignoring things at larger schools who have the money to fight them. But, screw the NCAA.
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