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Post by bleadingcardwhite on Apr 8, 2017 10:14:39 GMT -6
Just curious on some of ya'lls thoughts. Watching the South Carolina v. Vandy baseball game and the catcher looks at the dugout to get every pitched called. In the pros is every pitch called by the dugout? It seems to me that coaches should be teaching the pitchers/catchers the strategy of the game. I feel that it is almost as egregious as a tennis player receiving coaching from the stands. I also do understand that coaches livelihood relies on winning so they control as much as they are aloud too. I just personally don't like it. Rant done, but curious as to some of your thoughts.
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Post by 00hmh on Apr 8, 2017 10:21:25 GMT -6
Nothing like a good rant...and you have a point.
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Post by Chi-town northsider on Apr 9, 2017 11:51:09 GMT -6
I know for us, the pitcher calls their own. The catcher throws down the sign, pitcher agrees or shakes off. Of course coach can call when he wants.
In the majors most the time the catcher is looking to see if they want to throw over to first.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 8:11:38 GMT -6
Just curious on some of ya'lls thoughts. Watching the South Carolina v. Vandy baseball game and the catcher looks at the dugout to get every pitched called. In the pros is every pitch called by the dugout? It seems to me that coaches should be teaching the pitchers/catchers the strategy of the game. I feel that it is almost as egregious as a tennis player receiving coaching from the stands. I also do understand that coaches livelihood relies on winning so they control as much as they are aloud too. I just personally don't like it. Rant done, but curious as to some of your thoughts. Most of the hitters have been charted, and also coaches are watching hitters for hitches or weaknesses in their swing. Catchers are usually focused on the play. So yeah, coaches will call in pitches based on tendencies and to exploit a weakness in the hitter. |
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Post by reevo on Apr 10, 2017 15:01:28 GMT -6
Typically the catcher is looking in for defensive signals as well as pick off and if the pitcher is to throw over. I would say less then 50% of most D1 programs allow their catchers to call their own game so yes, they are looking at where they are setting up and the pitch call.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 17:10:16 GMT -6
I know for us, the pitcher calls their own. The catcher throws down the sign, pitcher agrees or shakes off. Of course coach can call when he wants. In the majors most the time the catcher is looking to see if they want to throw over to first. I seem to remember that most of the catchers in the college World Series were getting the signs from the bench and then looking on their wrist before signaling the pitcher. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 17:34:11 GMT -6
I know for us, the pitcher calls their own. The catcher throws down the sign, pitcher agrees or shakes off. Of course coach can call when he wants. In the majors most the time the catcher is looking to see if they want to throw over to first. I seem to remember that most of the catchers in the college World Series were getting the signs from the bench and then looking on their wrist before signaling the pitcher. The newer number sign system. Usually five grids, each 5x5, will be inserted into the holder. Coaches will either yell three numbers, or sign in three numbers. First number is the grid #, next number is the X coordinate, and the third number is the Y coordinate. That give the catchers their pitch to call. The offense is also beginning to use it in baseball as well. It's difficult to poach the pitch call when this system is used because coaches will generate new grids for each game. The only time is gets broken is during travel ball tournaments when coaches will sometimes re-use the grids for more than one game (coaches can't always get to a printer to create new grids). If the grids are re-used, and other teams chart the pitches, they can break the code after an inning, or two. |
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Post by Chi-town northsider on Apr 10, 2017 23:49:27 GMT -6
The reason I know the pitcher and catcher work together because I asked one of the current catchers. They do go over the charts and the coach always can take over.
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