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Post by 00hmh on Oct 26, 2017 14:40:12 GMT -6
Selling needles for profit fails due to lack of funds by needle users,x-factor and externalities, since the problem is a public one, and since those who suffer include everyone else in the community who pay for the health care and shared public costs of the disease resulting from reuse of needles.
Paying with public funds saves higher public health cost expenses to the taxpayer later. And of course the disease vector extends to innocent parties, including children.
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 26, 2017 14:45:15 GMT -6
"Pence and his backers want YOU to worship and think as as he does."
I think most people in the world would prefer that other people think as they do....and probably worship too.
In what way is this unique?
No gripe with what they want. Not so happy with that Religious Freedom Act in the Indiana version which even Pence finally acknowledged was too broad. |
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Oct 26, 2017 14:50:50 GMT -6
Selling needles for profit fails due to lack of funds by needle users,x-factor and externalities, since the problem is a public one, and since those who suffer include everyone else in the community who pay for the health care and shared public costs of the disease resulting from reuse of needles. Paying with public funds saves higher public health cost expenses to the taxpayer later. And of course the disease vector extends to innocent parties, including children. The old "gotta steal from you now or else I'll have to steal even more from you later" argument. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 26, 2017 14:56:48 GMT -6
Unfortunately that may be the real world, tell me how selling needles solves the externality problem.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Oct 26, 2017 15:02:55 GMT -6
Unfortunately that may be the real world, tell me how selling needles solves the externality problem. I don't believe you. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 15:24:55 GMT -6
Just out of curiosity what is your gripe with Pence? I haven't lived in Indiana for many years so I don't know a great deal about his time as Governor of the state; personally, I respect the man's conduct as V.P. of our country. As governor he openly discriminated against the LGBT community with his far-right religious freedom bill and he supports conversion therapy. He's adamantly opposed to reproductive rights. His policies created an HIV epidemic in southern Indiana and then did nothing to quell the problem. Sure we have a balanced budget and a huge surplus, but during his time as governor he mostly was an embarrassment to Indiana and what it means to be a Hoosier. Now, he's Donald's toy puppet. Yeah that bill that was a boiler plate carbon copy of legislation passed without LGBT protest in several blue states. Congratulations on not understanding how optic politics work. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 26, 2017 16:00:03 GMT -6
As governor he openly discriminated against the LGBT community with his far-right religious freedom bill and he supports conversion therapy. He's adamantly opposed to reproductive rights. His policies created an HIV epidemic in southern Indiana and then did nothing to quell the problem. Sure we have a balanced budget and a huge surplus, but during his time as governor he mostly was an embarrassment to Indiana and what it means to be a Hoosier. Now, he's Donald's toy puppet. Yeah that bill that was a boiler plate carbon copy of legislation passed without LGBT protest in several blue states. Congratulations on not understanding how optic politics work. The bill was more broad than most versions of the law. DickHunsaker is quite fair to call it far right. But the problem for me was simply that it was overbroad. If not, Pence would not have pulled it back and revised it. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 26, 2017 16:00:56 GMT -6
Unfortunately that may be the real world, tell me how selling needles solves the externality problem. I don't believe you. Huh? How does selling needles solve the problem? You cannot doubt there is a problem here surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 16:11:16 GMT -6
Yeah that bill that was a boiler plate carbon copy of legislation passed without LGBT protest in several blue states. Congratulations on not understanding how optic politics work. The bill was more broad than most versions of the law. DickHunsaker is quite fair to call it far right. But the problem for me was simply that it was overbroad. If not, Pence would not have pulled it back and revised it. Oh I see it was "too broad" yet somehow was supposedly targeting a very narrow group of individuals. Pence pulled it back because he is a politician, not the phony potentate you for some reason believe he is. It was the expedient and practical thing to do. Just more Blah.....Blah.....Blah from you. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 16:13:32 GMT -6
Huh? How does selling needles solve the problem? You cannot doubt there is a problem here surely? Or if you are so personally affected by "dirty needles" you could fund a program through donations. BUT............................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....................That will never happen will it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 16:39:33 GMT -6
Jesus goCardsgo! Thanks for the hijack!
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Oct 26, 2017 17:05:52 GMT -6
Huh? How does selling needles solve the problem? You cannot doubt there is a problem here surely? You said it's unfortunate. I don't believe you think that. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 26, 2017 17:14:03 GMT -6
Whatever our utopian vision, deal with the reality, selling needles just doesn't solve the problem, and externalities are a very real problem for libertarian utopian fantasies.
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Post by JacksonStreetElite on Oct 26, 2017 17:24:52 GMT -6
Whatever our utopian vision, deal with the reality, selling needles just doesn't solve the problem, and externalities are a very real problem for libertarian utopian fantasies. See? I knew you didn't believe it. |
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Post by 00hmh on Oct 26, 2017 17:28:23 GMT -6
Nor do you, if you can't answer that question credibly. Or you believe despite the reality, it is unfortunately not tidy.
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