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Post by swenocha on Jan 9, 2018 15:17:00 GMT -6
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Jan 9, 2018 15:39:35 GMT -6
Post by sag on Jan 9, 2018 15:39:35 GMT -6
Here are Ball States three point percent leaders for both a career and a season: BEST 3-POINT PERCENTAGE IN A CAREER (Min. 200 Att.) 1. Emanuel Cross, 1989-91 .460 (92-of-200) 2. Dennis Trammell, 2003-05 .430 (99-of-230) 3. Patrick Jackson, 1998-02 .427 (202-of-473) 4. Randy Zachary, 1993-97 .418 (161-of-385) 5. Mark Hardwick, 1991-94 .399 (113-of-283) BEST 3-POINT PERCENTAGE IN A SEASON (Min. 100 Att.) 1. Dennis Trammell, 2004-05 .484 (59-of-122) 2. Emanuel Cross, 1990-91 .469 (60-of-128) 3. Randy Zachary, 1993-94 .455 (46-of-101) 4. Mickey Hosier, 1999-00 .446 (45-of-101) 5. Randy Zachary, 1996-97 .443 (58-of-131) Small point: you are not including active players, so Sellers is 5th for a career. Below, the top 20 for season %. These guys currently on the team are some of the best shooters BSU has ever had. 3-point FG percentage (minimum 40 made) 1. .526 - Patrick JACKSON (41-78) - 1999-00 2. .521 - Jamie MATTHEWS (50-96) - 1992-93 3. .518 - Rob ROBBINS (43-83) - 2000-01 4. .484 - Dennis Trammell (59-122) - 2004-05 5. .469 - Emanuel CROSS (60-128) - 1990-91 6. .455 - Randy ZACHARY (46-101) - 1993-94 7. .446 - Mickey HOSIER (45-101) - 1999-00 8. .443 - Randy ZACHARY (58-131) - 1996-97 9. .440 - Randy DAVIS (44-100) - 2009-10 10. .439 - Mark HARDWICK (54-123) - 1993-94 11. .437 - Sean SELLERS (66-151) - 2014-15 12. .428 - Patrick JACKSON (65-152) - 2000-01 13. .426 - Patrick JACKSON (81-190) - 2001-02 14. .419 - Tayler PERSONS (44-105) - 2016-17 15. .418 - Francis KIAPWAY (74-177) - 2015-16 16. .415 - Sean SELLERS (68-164) - 2016-17 17. .409 - Zavier TURNER (61-149) - 2013-14 18. .400 - Ryan WEBER (70-175) - 2015-16 19. .397 - Francis KIAPWAY (50-126) - 2014-15 20. .394 - Jauwan SCAIFE (56-142) - 2010-11
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Jan 9, 2018 15:51:51 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 15:51:51 GMT -6
Yeah I know Sellers is currently 200/489 for .401 so he probably will break into the Top 5 for his career. Tyler won't break into the Top 5 for a season because he won't get to 100 attempts.
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Jan 9, 2018 16:15:27 GMT -6
Post by 00hmh on Jan 9, 2018 16:15:27 GMT -6
Yeah I know Sellers is currently 200/489 for .401 so he probably will break into the Top 5 for his career. Tyler won't break into the Top 5 for a season because he won't get to 100 attempts. Sellers impressive given the high volume of shots. Other teams don't want him to shoot, so getting enough shots to hit a good percentage against that defense is pretty good. If he were a real triple threat and could drive, he would have had a year along the way where he could have led the MAC in scoring, certainly would have gotten to the line more. We're now getting guys who can drive, hopefully that will mean teams have to give them easy looks and they hit a better (decent) percentage. Except. Walton who really can get to the basket, has not shown much of that potential. He and Teague just go to the basket and make people stop them. Still, I know Walton is shooting a fair number of long threes in workouts and practice, Teague can hit from spots. So I believe both will improve some at least. It's probably Acree, Coleman, Ish, along with Hazen who have the best chance to become secondary threats. Mallers and Gunn, at least one has to step up over this year to provide a primary threat along with Persons. Overall not real worried with offense, delighted with the potential to actually become a good defensive team, to run, to hit the boards better, get out on the break.
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Jan 9, 2018 16:17:43 GMT -6
Post by thebsukid on Jan 9, 2018 16:17:43 GMT -6
Of course they are Sag but the # 1 Debbie Downer would not ever want to put out anything positive about this team and coach!
And to your very point, current players dominate the top 20 list!!
Still hiding Halftime...no balls.
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Post by reevo on Jan 9, 2018 16:33:44 GMT -6
The difference is Cross, Trammel and Jackson could create their own shots. Sellers has to be set and really is a one dimensional catch and shoot player. He is a good shooter but when teams get out on him, he struggles where the other guys could do other things with the basketball.
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Jan 9, 2018 16:39:17 GMT -6
Post by thebsukid on Jan 9, 2018 16:39:17 GMT -6
Agree Reevo, as can Tyler in my view.
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 9, 2018 17:19:40 GMT -6
RMCalhoun, if your going to comment why don't you choose to comment on the facts of who I said should start when Halftime claims in his comment was referencing KIP ...I did not say Kip should start so in effect Halftime ignores when I said that Tyler should start and we don't lose anything and we don't as he shoots better from the Field and 3 point range than Walker and frankly is a better defender and athlete. So to say I said we should replace a 40% shooter with a 30% shooter is dead wrong...do you support everyone thats wrong. I won't name call Halftime as he does many folks all the time, but if you are agreeing that I said Walker should be replaced by Kip...its dead wrong as I said Kip should replace Walker as the starter and Kip should come off the bench...I'm not letting up as Halftime calls names and then try to make his point without all of the facts. Note you won't say what you do...no balls. I'd piss on him if I could Because I really wanted to know Why. This has went on so long I have no idea what you said and have no idea what you guys are even arguing about at this point. If your asking me who I think should start in place of Walker I would want Kiapway to start and for Tyler to continue coming up the bench. I like the spark Tyler brings. In a world where Walker did not just completely F up. I would have preferred him starting with Tyler getting more minutes than Kiapway. Kiapway just really has not done anything for me this year.
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Jan 9, 2018 17:37:30 GMT -6
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Post by thebsukid on Jan 9, 2018 17:37:30 GMT -6
RM reasonable response.
I just think Halftime is a major name caller and he mis represented what I said. I said Tyler should start followed with Kip off the bench I don’t care which but Halftime said I wanted a 30% shooter to replace a 40 % shooter and thus I’m a moron and idiot.
Fact is clearly I was advocating a higher percentage shooter in Tyler replacing Walker who’s percentages are lower.
Pretty easy but he then says I’m the idiot, really?
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Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 9, 2018 17:59:36 GMT -6
RM reasonable response. I just think Halftime is a major name caller and he mis represented what I said. I said Tyler should start followed with Kip off the bench I don’t care which but Halftime said I wanted a 30% shooter to replace a 40 % shooter and thus I’m a moron and idiot. Fact is clearly I was advocating a higher percentage shooter in Tyler replacing Walker who’s percentages are lower. Pretty easy but he then says I’m the idiot, really? You guys are doing a a bang up job hashing it out so Ill just let you guys handle that. Kiapway is starting by the way
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Post by realitycheck on Jan 10, 2018 0:38:12 GMT -6
If you start Tyler and bring Kiapway off the bench, you have very little offensive firepower in the second unit other than Teague. I love Tyler off the bench and I think he likes that role as well. Obviously so do the coaches. Let’s put that one to bed and move on.
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Jan 10, 2018 6:26:53 GMT -6
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Post by 00hmh on Jan 10, 2018 6:26:53 GMT -6
The difference is Cross, Trammel and Jackson could create their own shots. Sellers has to be set and really is a one dimensional catch and shoot player. He is a good shooter but when teams get out on him, he struggles where the other guys could do other things with the basketball. Sellers isn't even the ideal catch and shoot, no really quick release. Has to be set. Remarkable how much he's done given that.
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Jan 10, 2018 8:14:24 GMT -6
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Post by thebsukid on Jan 10, 2018 8:14:24 GMT -6
Reality, I’m fine with putting it to bed but I doubt many players relish coming off the bench as opposed to starting.
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Post by realitycheck on Jan 10, 2018 9:53:16 GMT -6
Reality, I’m fine with putting it to bed but I doubt many players relish coming off the bench as opposed to starting. Agreed Kid. I think most everyone wants to be a starter but to your previous points, Tyler is usually in at crunch time and I think he is thankful for having received multiple chances from Whitford that he is more accepting of the role. In addition, JT benefits from playing against more typical bench players and it gives him better scoring opportunities. I don't disagree that from a sheer talent level, Tyler is the most likely starter but I still like the offensive one-two punch that he and Teague give us. Much less drop-off than in the past when we were just trying to hold on with our bench players while our starters got a few minutes rest. Those two can keep the pressure on and actually probably increase our athleticism when they come in. Nice to have that spark.
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Jan 10, 2018 12:29:58 GMT -6
Post by rmcalhoun on Jan 10, 2018 12:29:58 GMT -6
Reality, I’m fine with putting it to bed but I doubt many players relish coming off the bench as opposed to starting. Agreed Kid. I think most everyone wants to be a starter but to your previous points, Tyler is usually in at crunch time and I think he is thankful for having received multiple chances from Whitford that he is more accepting of the role. In addition, JT benefits from playing against more typical bench players and it gives him better scoring opportunities. I don't disagree that from a sheer talent level, Tyler is the most likely starter but I still like the offensive one-two punch that he and Teague give us. Much less drop-off than in the past when we were just trying to hold on with our bench players while our starters got a few minutes rest. Those two can keep the pressure on and actually probably increase our athleticism when they come in. Nice to have that spark. I love when great minds think alike
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